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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 2:00 am 
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This map is not "officially correct". They include areas here that are not part of the park yet...... if you don't know the story PM me I'll explain.

NetEk, could you rather explain here, so that all of us can learn about this? I had a marvellous visit to Mapungubwe in May 2009 and am very interested to know more about this amazing park and area. You are very fortunate to have your own private property there! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Love the units!!! Oh the Landscapes look so beautiful

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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This map shows the private property (samaria 1 and 2 ) as part of the park which it officially isn't. If you look at the area in green to the west of the road leading down to the tree top, where the no entry signs are up to the white - - - - - line. This is still private land and has been trying now for over 10 years to become part of the park.... That is the basics.

The fences are down and some of the park staff even thinks it is part of the park telling visitors the land has been "reposesed" but no official contrat has been signed although there has been one on the table to sign since 2006 (burocracy). The not so PC part of this whole deal is, as a gentlemans agreement these land owners no longer hunt on these farms (which was their main for of income) as the park would pay a "rental" type fee to them once the contract is in place. But since the contract hasn't been signed the owners of the land now needs to maintain this land out of their own pockets since 2006.

Sorry I get a little irate about the situation and we are now hi-jacking a very beautiful thread so as I said if you want more info PM me. I don't want to upset anybody so I would prefer to keep the rest off the board.

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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:sup: Goronta, AMAZING!!!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Wonderful scenic roads.
They look so good in your pictures.
I look forward to trundle on them someday.


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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Lovely landscapes and for sure the green pigeons were worth the travel :clap: :clap: :clap:

and on top you got to see three of them :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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NetEk, thanks for your explaination of the underlying politics of Mapungubwe's ongoing evolution. I'm sure there's lots more to it, but your brief explanation does help in overall understanding of the politics involved. Very difficult for those landowners, too, so I hope that the contracts get signed soon! It is such a beautiful park and with so much potential, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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The accomodation looks great, Goronta :thumbs_up:

I love your scenery pictures :clap: :clap:

The green pigeons are gorgeous :dance: :dance: very high on my wish list

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Great photos Goronta - brings back great memories - thank you! :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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I was out a few days and I see the thread was very active. :D
Thanks a lot for your conrtribution :gflower:
mosij, Trrp-trrrrrrrr, isinkwe, vinkie, NetEk, sable, arks, C.o.S, Philip1, Mandinga, Pumbaa, gatita, jaytea

It's interesting to have information from you dear 'mites living in the country on different topics concerning the parks as we ,from outside ,as tourists, we only have a limited knowledge we built up by reading or visiting the places from time to time.
Thank you for sharing ,it's for me another way of learning I can benefit from this beautiful place we call the Forum ! :D
NetEk,don't worry ,there is no highjacking , as I said before in a former post ,once you start a thread it doesn't belong to you anymore ,it becomes an open place shared by and for everybody.
Pumbaa, it was not 3 green pigeons but a full green pigeons tree :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Thanks for understanding.


I love the Pigeon tree are they related to Monkey tree's I have seen alot of them at Map.

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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NetEk :gflower:

We stayed a little bit at Zebra pan waiting for mammals but only birdies came to the bar for a drink .
Not a real issue ,as you guessed, we love birds !

Another green pigeon with a dove

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Doves drinking (not the best shot)

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A rather quiet lapwing

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Standing still

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And for the first time ....

A Meyer's parrot
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Always happy when you see a new bird :dance: :dance:


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I hope my ID are correct :redface:

It was time to go back home


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And enjoy the camp (we'll visit Leokwe tomorrow in a new chapter) before a new african burning sky


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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Very :mrgreen: of your Meyer's parrot, but I think that your 'lapwing' is in fact a threebanded plover? (There is an excellent Index in the forum's Birds Forum, a great place to easily check on IDs!)


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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Goronta,

Awesome feathered friend sightings with super special :cam: :thumbs_up:

8) Favourites for me this time are the Green Pigeon and Meyer's Parrot :clap: :clap:

More please :popcorn:

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 Post subject: Re: Mapungubwe, Eternal Hill
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Look at that sky 8)

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

love the pigeon trees. Mapungubwe really is a birders paradise.

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