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ID needed/Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Jon Richfield » Thu May 27, 2010 1:59 pm

Hello, I am new here, but I like what I see!
One of my interests is the conservation value of sites that are not strictly parks, but incidentally protect or establish local ecologies by excluding harmful human activities. One example is nuclear power station territory surrounding eg Koeberg, and also its cooling water outlets into the sea. Another is the area around the nuclear waste repository at Vaalputs. I attach (I HOPE!) pictures I took of some delightful little plants in the viciously arid veld of Vaalputs. They may well also occur in the West Coast or Karoo Parks. Certainly some of their close relatives do.

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These interest me especially because they share a characteristic that I observed in several families growing there: tiny plants with surprisingly large (though still small) inflorescences.

Incidentally, can anyone identify the tiny blue flower growing next to the Gazania?

In general, it is worth seeing just how many spp. one can see in some such pictures...

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Re: Tiny plants in arid area, inflorescences larger

Unread postby Jakkalsbessie » Fri May 28, 2010 10:07 am

Hi Jon,

:D Welcome to the forum!

Glad to see someone interested in flowers!
Great photo of the Zaluzianskya (purple Drumsticks) :clap:

Your tiny blue flower next to the Gazania is a Wahlenbergia - not 100% sure which one but i would go for W. prostrata.
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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby arks » Mon Jun 07, 2010 12:42 pm

I'm hoping that someone will be able to help with IDs on some of the plants that I saw in KTP in February/March 2010. The map/guide book includes a dozen of the most comon plants/trees, which is a big help, but there are many more that I noticed that are not included. Here are a few.

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Caracal » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:23 pm

Morning Arks

The last photos is maybe a Cleome gynandra
Annual....erect clusters of spider-like flowers.
Flowering time ..late summer to autumn
Found under tree,in disturbed areas and around pan edges

Also known as African cabbage,spider wisp, oorpeultjie, snotterbelletjie

Info from Flowering Plants of the Kalahari Dunes..pg 164
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Still checking others for you.

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Caracal » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:28 pm

Photo no 2

adenium oleifolium

Also know as bitterkambro, ouheip, pylgif.

Used as one of ingrediants of arrow poison. Also used to treat wounds, snake bites and to treat fever and stomach ailments.

Same book ..pg 202

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Caracal » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:38 pm

Photo no 1

Possibly
Neuradopsis austro-africana
Also known as windeblommetjie.

But also check Grielum humifusum also known as common grielum, pietsnot, duikerwortel

I am not a fundi on flowers..I am really just looking in my books. The photos in books are small ..not easy to see the difference.

Maybe you can research these 2 flowers Arks and make up your own mind

Both these flowers are on pg 166 of the above mentioned book.

Hope I have been of some help. I also hate not knowing what I have photographed !!! :D

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby arks » Mon Jun 07, 2010 1:41 pm

WoW, thanks Michele! (I think that I need to get that book! :wink: ) And yes, you've been a HUGE help, because the only flower/plant book that I have is for fynbos. You're at least now giving me a place to start with the googling ... going off to research #1 now :D

Edit: Have googled both your suggestions for #1 and think it's definitely the later, Grielum humifusum .
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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby arks » Tue Jun 08, 2010 3:43 pm

Here are some more of my Kgalagadi "mystery plants" — all seen in February 2010. Any help with ID will be much appreciated!

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Caracal » Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:14 am

Morning Arks...

No 3 maybe Aptosimum albomarginatum ..snapdragon family /koegab.
or possibly....Aptosimum marlothii...koffiepit

No 2 ...Monechma genistifolium ..acanthus family/perdebos

No 1 ...still looking.

Again google names and compare your photos...pictures in books really small and cannot see much.
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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Jakkalsbessie » Tue Jun 29, 2010 11:30 am

:clap: wow you 2 are getting good at ID'ing these arid flowers :thumbs_up:

Nice pics arks!

I will help out a bit with #1 :wink:
It is Gisekia africana - (Ostrich herb).
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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby arks » Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:35 pm

Thanks SO much for your help — and compliments — JB and Caracal. I certainly can empathise with field guide photos that could be "anything" :roll: Here are three more of my KTP mystery flowers from March 2010. All help with ID is much appreciated!

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Caracal » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:26 pm

Hi Arks
I took this pic up at Auchterlonie..do you think it is the same as your no 1

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Still trying to ID pics for you..maybe Jakkalsbessie will op in and put us out of our misery !!! hehehehe :D

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Caracal » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:32 pm

Arks, try Scrophulariaceae Striga gesnerioides for no 2.
Also known as bloublom / snapdragon family.

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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby arks » Wed Jun 30, 2010 10:37 pm

Caracal wrote:Hi Arks
I took this pic up at Auchterlonie..do you think it is the same as your no 1

Yes, I do think it's the same. And your photo of the single flower is gorgeous! Do you know what it is?

#2 does look similar to what you suggest. When I googled, found better pix when I dropped that first latin word. Apparently it's a parasitic plant and in Namibia it is called witchweed.

Thanks for your help!
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Re: Plants of the arid region.

Unread postby Jakkalsbessie » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:43 am

:thumbs_up: very nice photos you 2 8)

#1 Indigofera alternans var. alternans (Springbokopslag {Afr});

#2 Agree with Striga gesnerioides (Witchweed or Bloublom);

#3 Geigeria pectidea (River vermeerbush) :wink:
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