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TOO easy :lol: But interesting to see how little some things change.

I was (and still am) utterly mesmerised by baobabs! And this was the first I'd ever seen. Here are the other pix I took of it that day -

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 Post subject: Re: Where was I exactly 21 years ago today?
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I think this is an easy one :D - partly just an experiment to see if I can upoload the pic

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Interesting arks. I think the vegetation around it is a bit denser at the moment.

In which direction are you facing in your first pic??

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The Baobab tree is on the little turnoff from the H1-3

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 Post subject: Re: Where was I exactly 21 years ago today?
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In which direction are you facing in your first pic??


Geez, Loams, it was 21 years ago :roll: I have no idea. It was morning, if that helps? Probably around 8-9am?

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You know, I asked a really stupid question actually, with that length of road, one can only be heading West. Anyhow, this is a photo I took of the same tree over Easter.

Look at the vegetation difference. Sorry, it's not from the same angle, because you couldn't see the baobab from the entrance. What are they saying about Elephants destroying trees and vegetation???? Yes, I know it's only a small area and you can't base a whole study on this. Still food for thought

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*EDIT* BTW, I am facing East in this pic

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Look at the vegetation difference. Sorry, it's not from the same angle, because you couldn't see the baobab from the entrance.


Yes, IIRC from 2000, you no longer have this straight approach road leading to the southernmost boabab. (I probably should have posted that pic for my quiz :lol: ) Do I recall correctly that with the present road, you are much closer to the tree before you see it? Still, fairly unchanged, which IS interesting. My pic is taken in springtime and yours is late summer, hence much more lush vegetation.

I'll see if I have some other of my 1984 pix that may make for interesting comparisons, but the problem is that for most of them, I don't really know the precise location. One that I will post (but not as a quizz because I don't know the answer :lol: ) is of two ellies frolicing at a waterhole on the Timbavati Road. I'm curious whether anyone can work out which waterhole.

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Do I recall correctly that with the present road, you are much closer to the tree before you see it?


Yup

Now I have no idea what the road used to look like, but that area has masses and masses of trees, much more than in your pic, which is why I make the Elephant statement. Not because the trees are more lush in my pic. Will ask Jose to take a pic of the road towards it now so we can see the change.

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I have a trunk circumference of 31 meters.

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The baobab is in Mapungubwe National Park.

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DuQues wrote:
Completely correct!

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(Has anyone got a photo of it?)

This could be a photo of the baobab: http://www.sanparks.org/gallery/mapungubwe/Baobab


EDIT: Maybe the baobab on the photo looks too small to be the one we are talking about. With a circumference of 31 metres, it would have to have a diameter of about 10 metres. :? (did I get my mathematics right?) :?:

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This Boabab you are referring to is not even the biggest!! :shock:

According to Thomas Peckham in his book "The remarkable Boabab" the biggest Boabab tree can be found at Sagole in Venda. Its circumference of 44m and a diameter of 14m! :wink:

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This is the Boabab pub :wink:

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Some interesting facts I found on Baobabs on the following website Plantzafrica.com

Uses and cultural aspects

Large baobab trees with hollow stems have been used by people for centuries for various purposes including houses, prisons :shock: , pubs, storage barns, and even as bus stops! A big tree in the old Transvaal region is recorded as once being used as a dairy.
Another tree near Leydsdorp was used as a bar (known as the Murchison Club) and utilized by prospectors and miners during the gold rush of the late 19th century. One such tree in the Caprivi Strip was converted into a toilet, complete with a flushing system. :lol:

Rainwater often collects in the clefts of the large branches, and travelers and local people often use this valuable source of water. It has been recorded that in some cases the centre of the tree is purposely hollowed out to serve as a reservoir for water during the rainy season. One such reservoir was recorded as holding 4 546 litres of water. A hole is drilled in the trunk and a plug inserted so that water can be easily retrieved by removing the plug. The roots of the baobab can also be tapped for water……

….There are many legends and superstitions surrounding the baobab tree. For example, it is believed that an elephant frightened the maternal ancestor of the baobab.{Might be why the tree jumped into the ground head first :wink: } In some parts the baobab is worshipped as a symbol of fertility. It is a belief among certain people that spirits inhabit the flowers of the baobab and that any person who picks a flower will be eaten by a lion. :shock: It is also believed that water in which the seeds have been soaked will offer protection against attack by crocodile, while sucking or eating the seeds may attract crocodiles. :? It is also believed that a man who drinks an infusion of the bark will become strong. In some areas a baby boy should be bathed in such a bark infusion, as this will make him strong; however, he should not be bathed for too long or he may become obese. :lol: It is also important that this water does not touch his head for this could cause it to swell. :shock: When inhabitants move from one area to another they often take seeds of the baobab with them, which they plant at their new homestead.

The bark on the lower part of the trunk often bears scars caused by local people who harvest and pound it to retrieve the strong fibre. The fibrous bark is used to make various useful items such as mats and ropes, fishing nets, fishing lines, sacks as well as clothing. Although the bark is often heavily stripped by people and elephants, these trees do not suffer as a normal tree would from ringbarking. Baobabs have the ability to simply continue growing and produce a new layer of bark. :hmz: The wood of the baobab is soft, light yellow and spongy, and although it has been recorded as being used for making boxes, this does not seem to be a widely used practice.

Many references have made mention of the exceptional vitality of this tree, noting that even after the entire tree is cut down it simply resprouts from the root and continues to grow; the same is noted of trees which have been blown over in storms. Despite this remarkable vitality, when a tree dies it collapses into a heap of soggy, fibrous pulp. Stories exist of how such quickly decomposing trees spontaneously combust and get completely burnt up.

More than 260 years ago baobabs were apparently successfully grown in England and had reached heights of 5-6 m, but were all destroyed in the heavy frosts of 1740. Surprisingly few baobabs have found their way into cultivation, possibly due to their reputation of being exceptionally slow growing.

...A number of significantly large, historical baobab trees can be seen in the Limpopo Province:
*The Sagole Baobab is recorded as being the biggest tree in South Africa with a stem diameter of 10.47 m, a height of 22 m and a crown spread of 38.2 m. It grows east of Tshipise.
*The Glencoe Baobab near Hoedspruit is probably the second largest and bears several trunks. It has a stem diameter of 15.9 m, a height of 17 m and a crown spread of 37.05 m. This tree has dates carved on the stem from 1893 and 1896.
*The Platland Baobab that grows near Duiwelskloof, today houses a pub. It has a stem diameter of 10.64 m, a height of 19 m, and a crown spread of 30.2 m.
*The Buffesldrift Baobab which is in the Makopane District, has a distinct trunk with a diameter of 7.71 m, a height of 22 m and a crown spread of 30.2 m.[/quote]


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Thanks Jumbo for a great report. This is exactly why I spend so much time here much to my SO's :evil: . Just love getting the new info on things I've seen and loved ( and painted) for ages.
One interesting fact I love about these trees is that their flowers are open at night and are pollinated by fruit bats.

One of my scariest bush experiences happened with a Baobab.

I was in a private reserve on my own and a bit nervous when I came across a Baobab that despite it's huge size, seemed to offer a route up into it's branches. After some struggling, I managed to reach the more level base quite high up and started to clamber triumphantly around this old giant while taking in the view. Suddenly from out of nowhere, and right next to me a Barn Owl flew out of a small opening nearly straight into me, causing me to scream out loudly and jump back - very nearly falling out of the tree. I looked down into the opening and was surprised at just how big the inner 'cave' was. Clearly bats and many other creatures roosted in here.
Next time I'll admire the tree from below. :wink:

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