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 Post subject: Black Leopard
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:33 pm 
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My Grand Mom swear that she saw a Black leopard in the late 60´s: I just want to know if other people saw Black Leopards as well. For me it is just important to verify the fackt, hough time doesn´t play a big role. Doesn´t matter if past or now.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:48 pm 
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There were rumours of black leopards in the Lydenburg area, and Mpumalanga Parks Board even did investigations to establish the authenticity of the rumours. As far as I can remember nothing was ever found to substantiate these rumours.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:54 pm 
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If I check Wikipedia there seems to be a basis though:
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A melanistic morph of the leopard occurs, particularly in mountainous areas and rain forests. The black color is heritable and caused by recessive gene loci.[7] (They are commonly called black panthers, although the term is not exclusive to leopards; it also applies to melanistic jaguars.)

Melanistic leopards are particularly common on the Malayan Peninsula. Early reports suggested that up to half of all leopards are black, but a 2007 camera-trap study in Taman Negara National Park found that all specimens were melanistic. The benefits of melanism are difficult to interpret, but it may serve as camouflage in the rainforest habitat. It is also possible that the color variation is a relic adaptation to an epidemic; genes causing melanism can also affect the immune system.[8][9] Genetic research has found four independent origins for melanism in cats, suggesting that there may be an adaptive advantage.[7]

In Africa, black leopards are much less common, as melanism is not an adaptive advantage in the savanna. Dark coloration provides poor camouflage and makes hunting difficult. In the dense forests of the Ethiopian Highlands, however, the black leopard is much more common than in Africa generally; as many as one in five leopards may be melanistic.[10]

Pseudo-melanism (abundism) occurs in leopards. A pseudo-melanistic leopard has a normal background color, but the spots are more densely packed than normal and merge to obscure the golden-brown background color. Any spots on the flanks and limbs that have not merged into the mass of swirls and stripes are unusually small and discrete, rather than forming rosettes. The face and underparts are paler and dappled like those of ordinary spotted leopards.[11]

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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According to the book "Kruger National Park - Questions and Answers" by PF Fourie and updated by Dr G De Graaf the question "Are there black panthers in the Park?" was asked - the reply:

"The so-called black panther of the East, a melanistic form of the leopard, is far more common in Asia than in Africa, but is not a different species. The gene for melanism - the opposite to albinism - is actually recessive, and to produce a black race extensive inbreeding would be necessary. Seen obliquely, the black specimens still show faint spots and rosettes. None have been observed in the Park."

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:49 pm 
Ja.

I don't think they occur naturally in Southern Africa.

The Lydenburg one was either a hoax or an escaped game farm or privately owned specimen, I think!

There are a lot of weird animals kept privately here, as in the rest of the world!


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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:21 pm 
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Expect the unexpected, cliche I know but that's what I've learned in the little time I've been on this earth (and going to Kruger for 24 years). Was the biggest non believer of all time until I've joined this forum :tongue: and saw what all you wonderful people have seen!

Therefore anything is possible. We live in a small "Plaas Dorpie" farming community and we're surrounded by beautiful mountains and cliffs not even 50km from Swaziland. Spoke to a farmer last week that said they have a leopard on his farm (not a black one) but still :big_eyes:. He/she doesn't bother anyone, who would have thought.
Who knows what's out there?

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:32 pm 
For example, a young leopard was killed by a vehicle on the Schoemanskloof road a couple of weeks ago! :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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Considering the very dark colour of some giraffes in Kruger, as well as the right amount of low light, I can easily see how a similar "darker" leopard can be mistaken for a black leopard.

And I am in no way insinuating that it is not possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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@ Richprins - :shock: :shock: Again, who would've thought!
@ Bundi - So true, on 2 occasions saw very, very dark giraffes.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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I wouldn't be surprised if a black leopard has existed sometime in the last 100 years in the KNP...


Like for me seeing what I was convinced was a black caracal in the West Coast National Park...I know what I saw with my own eyes but I would do anything for this sighting again because I cant be 100% sure. Whether its the mind playing tricks or if these guys exist, only time will tell!

Oneday though, I am convinced someone will see one of these rarities in the next 20 years in our SANParks with a photo to prove it! Cant wait for that! It really boils down to a genetic lottery so it will happen!!

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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Wouldn't it be great!

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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Malealea wrote:
My Grand Mom swear that she saw a Black leopard in the late 60´s: I just want to know if other people saw Black Leopards as well. For me it is just important to verify the fackt, hough time doesn´t play a big role. Doesn´t matter if past or now.


My mom also told me about her Melanistic leopard sighting in Kruger in the 60's. So yes, you may verify that fact. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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Would be a great sighting if you were lucky enough to spot one.


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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
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OK on the black leopard issue! There is one that is in the johannesburg area in some predator centre but cant say where as im not 100% sure! I have seen the phots of this leopard and it does occure but the rossets can still be seen! I know of a male leopard thats in the Lugmag dam area that is very dark but still not black! These colour variations can occur and is not impossible! ON the giraffe issue; Giraffes go black with old age! there are quite alot of them arround! On the S100 close to satarathere was a very old bull that was almost totaly black and one had to be close to it to see the very faint lines on it! Hope this helps

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 Post subject: Re: Black Leopard
Unread postPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:08 pm 
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In the 70's, with the family we saw a "Black Leopard on the Skuks-Lower Sabie road, but ypu could still see the rosettes, 8)

So not a Black Leopard, IMHO. :hmz:

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