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 Post subject: WHY DO POACHERS HUNT CERTAIN ANIMALS?
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:14 pm 
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I've heard about elephant tusks being used for afrodesiacs, Rhino horns for medicine but what provokes a lot of thinking is why one would poach for cats? For thei skin perhaps, teeth or possibly meat? :shock:


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I would think their skin...or their head...mounted on the wall.... :evil:

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There is a substantial market for skins that is used in traditional ceremonies, etc.

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Indeed Imberbe.
Saw many Leopard skins on TV showing our State President's 5 wedding ceremony.

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Hey everybody...

Rhino is mostly poached for the so-called afrodesiac properties in the horn. Ivory for it's value and demand worldwide and predators are often poached to supply the local 'sangomas' (witchdocters) with certain animal bodyparts which is then used for medicine or for tribal or cultural rituals. The more common species such as buck are also poached on a regular basis to supply the 'bushmeat' market (easy and cheap meat taken from the land) -this is a common occurance along the eastern and western boundaries of the KNP

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Yes,also saw the wide spread coverage. Tradition versus conservation? :hmz:

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I was recently given a gift from Africa...looks very much like ivory :shock:
Does bone or horn carving look like ivory? Or hippo teeth? These small items have giraffes carved into them & I'm hoping that they aren't illegal ivory... :pray:

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Ivory is the mother of many artifacts but what makes legal? How does a necklase sold in the park differ from a tusk sold by a poacher? I heard a ranger shot a lion that was eating live stock close to the Numbi gate, when it was declared dead the villagers ate, how can you eat a cat!!!! Skin is one of the reasons common animals get slaughtered, what a pitty to die for what covers your body.
I think a lot of superstisions from Sangomas, tradition and african myths are the cause for these rare creatures becoming victums poaching.


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As stated in other topics, rhino horns are used to make the handles of daggers in some middle east countries but in Asia is used an aphrodisiac, but it is like eating your finger nails. leopard skins are used for decoration and the bones and teeth of predators are used for medicinal purposes but are also used by Sangomas (witch doctors)

Unfortunately most of the users are very ill informed and still believe that a lion's tooth can predict your future. What is also mind bogging is that the Asian governments don't educate their people regarding the uselessness of rhino horn. The same goes for abalone which is poached almost to extinction by the very same people that think that it is an aphrodisiac. Btw Viagra is much cheaper and more readily available.

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In some Areas in afrika they gonna eat cats. E.g in Lesotho. it is a delicacy and Medicine at once. Then of course the skins. Dependig on which skinns we are talking about, you can earn a lot of money on the black markets.

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 Post subject: Re: WHY DO POACHERS HUNT CERTAIN ANIMALS?
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JUST COMES SHOW WHAT OPPORTUNIEST PEOPLE CAN BE. bRINGING US TO THE VERY NEXT BEST THIN CALLED CONSERVATION FEES WHICH FOCUSES ON THE WAR ON POACHERS!
IS THE LION TAIL GOOD FOR ANYTHING I MEAN WHY WOULD ONE SELL IT. I OVER HEARD THAT HAYENA TAIL CAN PUT ONE TO SLEEP WHEN THEY ARE BURNT, MOST USED BY THIFTS.


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@ OzNes

Why are you angry? Of course we are opportunitist at all. That is the reason why human beiings are able to live erverywhere in the whole world. And it is good. Just check out the different Diets of human. You will soon realise that in some countries Human eatin predators! You wan to have an exapmpel, I can give it to you eg Corocodiles! As the most people already mentioned Sangomas need´s any kind of animal to create"Magic". Then of course Fashion. Animals are used everywhere, for food, clothes or "magic"(for people who belive in it, I can say about me that I don´t belive in at)! I can´t tell you when a lion Tail si used, but I can imagine that they will find a use for it. And about the fees, I´m sure everybody is at your oppinion.

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 Post subject: Re: WHY DO POACHERS HUNT CERTAIN ANIMALS?
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:? Angry? im not pissed at all.
I just find poaching for medicine and Sangomas twisted, i can understand hunters who kill for meat because they need to feed their families. Its part of our African tradition to hunt in our inherited land but even that doesnt mean we should over exploit our previledges. I dont think poachers are aware of extinction, because thats were they are driving nature to.


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@ Oznes
I assume that you were angry, beacuse you wrote everything in capital letters. In Forums or Internet at all that mean screeming. If this is not the case I want to apoologize for it.

But now back to topic, I can´t understand poachers at all, because they act selfischly they just think about themselves and there families. That exploitation will effeckt the poachers as well the most of them not even think about that topic. Of Course hunting is Afrikan Tradition, but poaching isn´t tradition, its stupid at all. All the African tribes kill animals to survive and they will use everything from the animal. They try to kill as less as possibel i´d like to compare it with predators.

Poachers just kill for fun and money ecological thoughts don´t exist. They try to kill as many as possibel because every dead animal means cash. The Ressult is that many animals get shot and only the horns or tails or what ever is removed. But this are parts not everything. I hope you see the difference.

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