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I have been following this thread with interest and had the pleasure of seeing 6 male lions on the S41 at Gudzani waterhole on the 8th Oct 2009. On They were doing what lions do best, sleeping when they we ask by the heard of elephants to please move out of their way. Luckily we got to see the individuals! When I saw your photos Maiper of the injured male, I had a look at the individual photos I took of the 6, and there were no one with a scar. Posted my photos on
[http://www.sanparks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=36928&start=30

Going to Satara soon, hope we will see them!

Is it unusual for lions to take "special interest" in a car with two people in it?
Recently we stopped next to three lions, and immediately they showed a lot of interest in the people in the car. It seemed as if their eyes followed the movements in the car (windows turned up), or is this just my imagination?

Hi all,

This thread has made for interesting reading...
I don't remember there being such large groups of nomad males in the past, in the past 3 or 4 was common, with 1or 2 dying or splitting from the group resulting in prides consisting of 1-3 males. Today it seems that 5-7 is common and then the group splits.
It also seems that these large groups of nomad males cause absolute havoc amongst what would seem like normal pride structures, take over times etc. One can only imagine the countless cubs that get killed in these take overs. An example would be the Mapogos and another group of 6 males roaming the south, these groups have all ousted between 4-6 prides' males.
One has to also question if these groups are in fact the champions of natural selection and have stronger genes or just lucky by virtue of numbers. Is this perhaps a prelude to a collapse of the Kruger's lions or nature balancing the books?
Just food for thought...

Welcome, IngweMan!

Very good points!

Don't think it's the end of lions, rather perhaps a sign of good times over the last decade or so of good rains!

Also, a much increased wealth of sightings over the internet!

Lions are sometimes referred to as the "rats" of the bush...they are extremely survivable!

Hi everyone

This thread which started in 2009 is still relevant to today! The large group of nomadic males now numbers 6 and they still cause havoc in the nwanetsi area!
I saw them attack a male this year at the start of April.

here is the link:
viewtopic.php?f=21&t=52750