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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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OWN, was there only faeces there or were there other bodily fluids? Usually when an animal dies all it's muscles loosen and you get a very smell pile of dung, urine and seminal fluid.

And for the second part of the question - chuck a nice rare steak in front of me and I'll ignore most things to chomp it down :lol: :big_eyes:

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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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It is unlikely that that amount of dung were left there merely because the animal died there and lost controle of its bodily functions.

Predators usually start feeding at the soft parts of the animal where they can easily gain entry. The belly and anal area is usually prime areas to open the carcass. They would tear open those areas and leave the dung and undigested plant material alone.

What most probably happened is that the buffalo was killed on that spot and that they started feeding there. Probably because of disturbance or the natural need to get the carcass to a more hidden area, away from prying eyes, they moved it. A buffalo can be quite heavy, so it is often done only once they have removed some of the weight.

It is in fact common to find that the area where they eat, is not the place that the animal was killed.

As for smell ... believe me it is a horrid smell ... but no problem for those lions! Smells better than perfume, they would say! They are quite able and willing to eat meat, even putrefied meat, with the most horrible smell. They are faced with it from their first meat meal, till the last.

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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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:thumbs_up: :thumbs_up: Thanks, Imberbe; makes perfect sense. Is there almost always / always a smell of excrement and urine at a kill of any large animal? In other words, would this be a way of seeking our kills / carcasses in the bush?

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As for smell ... believe me it is a horrid smell


You ain't smelled nothing until you've smelled a feral pigs slop :redface: :big_eyes:

Thanks for the info Imberbe.

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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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Is there almost always / always a smell of excrement and urine at a kill of any large animal? In other words, would this be a way of seeking our kills / carcasses in the bush?


Yes, the smell of death is strong, especially with big animals.

I have often smelled it driving along, long before spotting the carcass. In fact you often never spot the carcass because you cannot depart the road or the vehicle.

But remember, every strong smell in the bush is not that of a dead animal! Elephant, rhino, buffalo ... all have strong smells associated.

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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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Excellent! Thanks Imberbe. :thumbs_up:
I'll have to train my olfactory gland to be more discerning.

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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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Once, I arrived few minutes after a kill... at 3 meter... never, never I will forget the smell... the pursuite, the fear... all together... made this smell :?
my neighbor in the car... was green...ill-green... :|

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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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But that is what makes the bush so unique - that can never be recreated in any urban, nor artificial, setting! I will also NEVER forget that smell; and I count myself fortunate to have experienced it. (Even though at the time I felt I couldn't bear it; perhaps by the third time I will be relatively immune?)

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 Post subject: Re: Mammals: Q & A
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Be glad photos and video don't come with smell!
We were in ... Let's call it another park, and near one of the waterholes lions had chanced upon a rhino, or the rhino had just died, whatever.
The rhino's 'spirit' was very much there though! I was happy when I thought of the fact that the car was a rental, I'm not sure if you'll ever get the rhino's spirit out of it!
And I can still smell him when I think of the photos. But got some good ones, so who am I to complain? ;)

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Lucky for the rental, eh? This is the first time that I've really smelled something so noxious; so it really made an impression on me. I also felt sorry for the dead animal, although I can't imagine why - I know this is how nature is supposed to be and all is good in nature?

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The pong is there so that lion gawkers don't spend all day there and let someone else hava a look. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Questions on culling (not talking about elephants)
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What species and how often does culling have to take place in parks like kruger?


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