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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
Unread postPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:16 pm 
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Does anyone have a photo of a black backed jackal pup? We recently saw a jackal carrying a small pup in its mouth, and our first thought was it was carrying a Cape fox baby, but then I began wondering if it could be its own baby. Both jackal and fox adults have elongated snouts, and this pup did not, so we're unsure...any input?


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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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Here's one of the pics, hopefully will make it easier to answer:

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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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Hi Africat,
I see you are home safe! :dance:
Welcome back to the forum!

Does a Jackal carry a young like in your pic??

This pic of a young was made near Kwang!It's not the best.It was hiding
behind bushes or running around!
It's older than yours in the pic.

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This is a little Cape Fox to compare.I'm afraid it looks like one "your Jackal"
is carrying!!

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I hope,I could help!!

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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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Hi Africat

Nice pic...this pic looks like an adult relocating a youngster....Ive also seen wilddogs carry their youngsters in much the same way and unlike the cats it comes across as a more casual and careless event! Nice capture though!
And ingrid great baby pics too!

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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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Thanks to all who offered help, MUCH appreciated! Yes, ingrid60, we are back home "safe"...(I noticed you did not include "and sound")..as I've never been accused of being "sound", so it would be a first.

Still not sure whether to go with fox or jackal. Your jackal pup photo was delightful, and looks quite similar, but the fox also has real possibilities ???? Another angle below, please help me decide....thanks to all who care to offer an opinion!

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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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Africat,
In this pic it looks like a Jackal pup,has a little longer snout than the little
Cape Fox!!
Did you have a look at the tail and colour of fur?This looks more Jackal than C.Fox!Now,I would go for Jackel!

BTW,great sighting!J.pups are not often seen!! :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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I had a very special sighting yesterday with this family of BBj's, not in A SANpark. We watched the pups playing around for a while before they disappeared behind a thick bush.

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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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Just a casual observation: When predators (Lion, Cheetah, Leopard, etc.) carry their young they usually get a firm grip of the youngster's loose neck skin. In your pic the poor baby's stomach is unfortunately the point of contact - which makes me believe that this is not the jackal's offspring, but indeed a easy meal. I would also believe that it is a baby cape fox.(Although I am not an expert in this field...yet)

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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
Unread postPosted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 6:37 pm 
Hey, AFRICAT!

The baby looks alive and healthy!

The foxes are much smaller than jackals, generally, so I think that pup is far too big to be a fox!

(Would have been more clearly marked by that size!)


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 Post subject: Re: Black Backed Jackal
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:clap: Great shots Oddesy!! :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Help With BBJ Behaviour
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I was in Addo recently and amongst some amazing sightings, we saw a BBJ with a kill. At first glance it looked like a scrub hare...

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But when we looked more closely, it turned out it was a bat-eared fox!

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I could perhaps understand a juvenile BEF being killed by a BBJ, but this looked like an adult BEF. Can anyone hazard a guess as to what might have happened? Would a BBJ kill a BEF? Or would the BEF have been dead already? The BEF must have died quite recently because the BBJ was the first to get into the flesh.

Any thoughts/guesses on this behaviour would be much appreciated. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Help With BBJ Behaviour
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:hmz:
The BBJ may be able to kill the BEF but not without being hurt itself i would not think, i would say the most probable scenario was that the BEF had died of natural causes and was found by the jackal. great pictures btw! :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Help With BBJ Behaviour
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Thanks oddesy.

Whilst browsing through some of the other mammal forums I came across this:

Nico wrote:
I filmed in KTP a fight between a Caracal and two Black Backed Jackals about a kill. The Caracal killed a Bat Eared Fox and the Black Backed Jackels had stolen it from the Caracal


Maybe a caracal had killed the BEF :hmz: There are plenty of caracal in Addo... we were fortunate enough to see one whilst we were there.


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 Post subject: Re: Help With BBJ Behaviour
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Wow what a photo's.
According to the book 'beat about the bush' jackals scavenge a lot, so it makes sense what PJL posted.


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 Post subject: Re: Help With BBJ Behaviour
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This all happened about 2.30pm near Carols Rest waterhole. The BBJ came to the waterhole to drink and then trotted off over the road and over a rise. A couple of minutes later we saw it coming back over the rise with the BEF... and then the BBJ proceeded to start tearing into the BEF next to the road. :shock:


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