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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Interesting thoughts? When I was a small girl ('60's) we used to go to a friends farm for the July holidays.. (3 weeks) and there was no electricity. A water tank on top of a cool room which kept the meat and milk etc. cold. We ate venison, impala were shot for the pot and I actually used to help skin them and also make biltong :big_eyes:

Trying to think how our parents had ice in the G&T's?? Maybe they did not have ice, it was winter afterall :D

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Thanks for the pics steamtrainfan. :clap: They bring back such memories. There were just as many tents (shown in some of the pics) as there were huts in those days and you weren't sure what accommodation you were going to get sometimes. Normally you didn't have to book in advance then, but if there were only tents available, that's what you got. :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Thanks for those pics steamtrainfan. Wish I still had some old photos. My first trip was as Easter Weekend in about 1954. We went up in my Dad's old 48 chev with four other families. We camped at Pretoriuskop. The adults slept on carpeting under a tarpaulin spread over the cars and the children slept in the cars. I was still too young to notice how the food was kept cool or prepared but do remember having an Easter egg hunt. Your pictures do bring back those old memories. Thanks.

We took our children up in about 1970. We stayed on the south and the travelled up to Olifants. The main road was still not tarred and there was no electricity in the camp, only gas and parafin lamps. No telephones, only two way radios in the offices. Absolute magic.


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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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I had a look at the Kruger Park Memories calendar tonight. It contains some great old photos.

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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My firts trip to KNP was in the early 50's. My folks were farmers (1 farm in Eastern Transvaal - Lothair/Warburton and 1 in Natal - Baynesfield/Richmond). My Dad would take one of the farm 8 ton trucks loaded with all the "luxuries" one being an old parrafin fridge for the ice in G&T's. I know we ate a fair amount of mealie meal for breakfasts and pre-cooked poitjies for supper. Tea & coffee was always with condenced milk or tinned evaporated milk.
Trips into the park were of a shorter duration than they are now days because of the problem of keeping fresh food etc cold. My mom would follow in the car (1954 Buick)with my sisters and the nanny, whilst I rode with the old man in the truck. It was normaly a very early start when leaving the farm and I always remember Dad breaking into song as the sun came up, something that kind of sounded like the old song "Oh what a beautiful morning, Oh what a beautiful day" from the musical "Oklahoma".
By the way, in regards to the clothing, he used to farm waring a pair of Khaki long pants and and an old tweed jacket and his trade mark every single day of his life was a rose in that dusty,sweaty old jacket's lapel which he picked from moms rose garden every morning.
These trips were usually done in conjunction with uncles,aunts and cousins, so it was always a big group. Once the truck was offloaded a tarp was rigged over the back of the truck for all us kids to sleep under on stretchers and often the men slept under the truck or in hammocks tied between the truck and a tree whilst the women slept in the bungaloes or tents. The old buggers probably could only get as far as the truck after the many G&T's around the fire :wink:
By 1958 or there abouts the fridge was replaced with a "Zero" parrafin chest deap freeze that took 4 labourers to load onto the truck and the trips would then be of a 14 day duration. I don't recall him ever taking any pics in those days, so can't help out in that area :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Dear All,

This is superb stuff and great that you are able and willing to share. To all that knew the Kruger of years gone bye, the memories are very special and will be treasured as long as we live. LeighVlasso those slides you were going to dump are superb both in quality and content! Yes, the pic marked Pretoriuskop is in fact Orpen and the pic marked Phalaborwa Gate is the old Punda Maria gate which no longer exists at that site but now at the outer gate. Steamtrainfan, those B&W are absolutely superb and each pic tells a story! Also VGStephens, great pics too. Chip most interesting your mention of Mr van der Veen. He was appointed in KNP as James Stevenson-Hamiltons personal assistant in the 30's and ended up as the first Head of Tourism of Kruger, a most remarkable guy and one of those of the old timers I would have like to have met! As the unofficial archivist of SANParksTourism (KNP esp), I have quite a collection of old pics from both SANParks archive (that I scanned on own account) as well as contributions from public. I humbly request permission to obtain copies of these old pics from forum members to add to collection. Please consider. Many thanks. JOEP

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Timbavati Picnic Spot 1982 by Sarel Retif

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Satara where current D-circle is situated ealy 1980's by Sarel Retief

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Gorge Camp also known at Olifants Gorge or Olifants Poort Camp near the base camp of the current Olifants Wilderness Trail Base Camp. 1950's and photo by Cecil Holmes of himself and wife Tess.

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Pontoon at Skukuza over Sabie River in the 1930's by Dr P Greyling

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Hi Joep, your pics really bring back good memories. :clap:

Take the photo of the little girl next to an ‘urn’ at the Timbavati picnic spot in 1982 (photo by Sarel Retief). Behind all those stones was where you parked your cars and you had to negotiate carefully down the stones to the picnic area. Now if you look at the Timbavati Picnic site in 1968 that LeighVlasso posted on 30 August 2010, past where the picnic area assistant is proudly standing with his kettle, you will see in the far distance is where the very basic toilets were situated (long drops and all). If you had an emergency, you also had a problem getting to the loo in time. :redface: :redface: :huh:

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Thanks, Chip, for your comments and yes, I clearly remember the old Timbavati with the faraway longdrop toilets. Yes, these pics bring back vivid memories! Enjoy, I will post some again soon! Joep

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 Post subject: Re: Old photos of Kruger
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Absolutely stunning! I think it would be a good idea if the forumites who posted these pics give permission to have them printed as calendars (as a Fund Raiser). These calendars would be scooped up by serious Kruger fans, guaranteed. (Just like the 2011 Kruger Park Memories Calendars!)


We are already at work collecting photos for the 2012 calendar. Joep Stevens was one of the main suppliers of photos for the 2011 calendar and we will be visiting him again early next year. I see he has asked forumites for permission to add their photos to his personal collection too - so we can work through him to choose photos and get the necessary permission. The Wild Card website has also set up a special gallery and they are keeping contributors details so that we can also approach them for permission to use their photos (not all Wild Card holders visit this Forum).

Midrand region came into being in March this year and we did the 2011 calendar as our first fundraiser, having no idea how it was going to be received (but with a lot of encouragement from Joep!). We have sold almost 2000 of them and it is good to know that the funds raised will all return to the Kruger Park in some way.


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