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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:13 pm 
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Hey Bush Baptist, or can I call you BB?
I understand that Brown snake eagle works, and please don't think I am disputing it... I just have to ask, if the Rator I posted on page 34 is a BSE, and the 2 on this page I posted this afternoon are also BSE's - isn't that a bit of an anomally, they don't (IMHO) look much alike.
As a fledgling birder, I am just trying to learn. What is it I need to look for and how do I identify these stupid feathered friends, if they look so little alike?

I mean, what is it I need to pinpoint as a basis for identification?
Other birds I can do relatively easily if I can see enough of them, but the Raptors floor me!
I even went and bought a Sasol Bird of Prey identification book to help me out, Tionet agreed we needed one because honestly, even between birds of the same type, there can be such big differences that you end up mis-identifying them.
This whole DCG and Gabar Goshawk thing kills me too - if you can't judge the size - and can't see the tail in detail, from the back they look identical - not to mention the Lizard Buzzard......
AAAARRrgggghh!
Why couldn't I have picked an easier Hobby!
Never confused a leopard awith a Hyena, or an elephant, or a bushbuck... ad infinitum!

For example, I was looking at the pic of the Raptor top of pg 36, and trying to identify it, I came up with Tawny eagle Juv - cuz that was the closest to what ALL my books told me - but even then it had colours in the wrong places, it was not meant to have such a dark trailing edge to the wing and the under wing and body colour should have been darker brownish, not cream coloured, as per foto given..... most entries I could find, showed that the Tawny has a long rounded tail, but the one in the pic was wedge shaped, not straight the way you would usually expect from the Tawny.
GGGGGrrrrrrrrr..........

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Haplo, you may call me BB, all my friends - an those not so friendly - on the forum do.

I am just an enthusiastic amateur, who realizes that raptor identification is jst about the hardest thing about birding after finding those not on your list!

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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Snake eagle?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yes, Brown Snake -Eagle.


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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, Brown Snake
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Brown Snake Eagle having dinner on the Doispane road.

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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, Brown Snake
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A real beauty

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Taken early in the morning and striking with its crest
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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, Brown Snake
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The second one looks like an immature bateleur

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi, what is this one called?
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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michaelpr wrote:
Hi, what is this one called?

I think it's Jeff.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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deefstes wrote:
michaelpr wrote:
Hi, what is this one called?

I think it's Jeff.


:lol: :?
Please ID it for me..


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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michaelpr,
Brown Snake-eagle, if you play with the exposure you'll see the bare legs, and he has a very broad head and neck, with long crown feathers. The very upright posture is typical and they have the habit of sitting on top of a tree or branch in the open like this.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Lizet Grobbelaar wrote:
michaelpr,
Brown Snake-eagle, if you play with the exposure you'll see the bare legs, and he has a very broad head and neck, with long crown feathers. The very upright posture is typical and they have the habit of sitting on top of a tree or branch in the open like this.


Thank you LIZET :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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No problem! Here is one from the front. Their eyes are a very bright yellow(another good field character)
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi all

I would really appreciate any views on this raptor.

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We saw it in August 2009 near Shingwedzi in KNP. Based on the first photo and particularly the shape of the head, etc., I think Brown Snake- Eagle without a doubt, though the colour bothers me a bit. However, see also the next photo. My friend, who also took some photos, thinks maybe Bat Hawk. The photos are already heavily cropped, but if you zoom in closely on some of the photos, a touch of white below its throat becomes evident. I assume the size should have given it away clearly, but we can’t recall the size clearly. It is really difficult to judge the size now on the photo, as it was sitting far in the distance, perched on the tree.

Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Obelix

Definitely a Brown Snake-Eagle.

The chances that you will find a Bat Hawk out in the open perched on a tree is not very good :lol:

Bat Hawk's are also very secretive and often overlooked as they normally roost during they daytime and only hunt at Dusk.


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