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 Post subject: Re: Afrikaans Animal Names
Unread postPosted: Sun May 24, 2009 6:50 pm 
Mooi, Elzet! :clap:

What about "vlermuis"? (Bat)


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Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:02 pm 
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Elzet your posts giving all the info on various different animals is very interesting. Thank you for posting them. :clap:

However, this topic is really just for Afrikaans Animal Names, so I will be splitting off your posts of info and putting them into a separate thread here in Chit Chat. In time they will be moved to the correct Forums here.

I am sure you will understand.

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Dear Jazil

Thanks.

If I look at page one and the rest of the pages - in my mind the idea was to explain the Afrikaans names, and then also where it came from (Etymology), i.o.w. I thought that was what I was doing? And then not to leave the foreign 'mites feeling completely lost, I tried my best to incorporate foreign names for 'local' names. Also indigenous languages?

However, no problem, had great fun posting the Afrikaans and other language meanings whilst it lasted...

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Elzet, there is still no problem with you posting the Afrikaans names for different things, I just think your wonderful info is wasted here, and needs to be higlighted elsewhere. :D

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Unread postPosted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:52 pm 
That's fine, Jazil, and thanks, Elzet! :clap:

(Will still see you around here, though...just more succinct posts! :wink: )


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Richprins wrote:
That's fine, Jazil, and thanks, Elzet! :clap:

(Will still see you around here, though...just more succinct posts! :wink: )


Hi Jazil, thank you. :wink: The info was for those that was not too sure what I was talking about, i.e. an add-on, and not suppose to be huge scientific info. For example, I've never heard of a Konkoit - and that's why I elaborated a bit re each animal that I've described... No problem, just tell me whereto we are movin', and I'll move right along... :thumbs_up:

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Thanks, I found the 'DHL' thread... :thumbs_up: :wink:

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I am glad that you have found it Elzet.

For those who have not, it is still here in Chit Chat.

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and what a 'suikerbekkie'? the little bird?

and a kakkerlak?

think about the origin of 'volstruis'?

is there any proper english name for a 'duiker'?

why is a jackal also referred to as a 'vos'?

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and what a 'suikerbekkie'? the little bird?

Sweetlips?

and a kakkerlak?

Shortsglue?

think about the origin of 'volstruis'?

Full straw house (Afrikaans > struis or stroois)

is there any proper english name for a 'duiker'?

Diver (as in scuba?)

why is a jackal also referred to as a 'vos'?

Directly translated from fox - with bad pronunciation...?

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Volstruis - Full straw house... or Full warrior/soldier... Full permanently drunken bird? :lol: :tongue:

It derives from the Middle High German 'Struz', and was originally a nickname for 'a warrior or soldier'. A second alternative is a development from 'struze' - a word for an ostrich, or specifically the ostrich feathers, as shown in the heraldic crest of the Prince of Wales. It is not clear what the precise meaning was in the Middle Ages, but it was probably an association with the magnificent plumage of the ostrich feather. There is a third possibility that the surname could be residential and describe one who lives at or by an inn called 'The Ostrich' or more likely 'The Feathers'.

http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Struis"

Swahili = Mbuni (Thanks to the Guides of Selous (Whiteman John and Mzee Haule) and Rumuruti).

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Du duiker, lit., a diver < duiken, to duck

Afrikaans, literally, diver, from duik to dive, from Middle Dutch dūken; akin to Old High German tūhhan to dive — more at duck

http://www.yourdictionary.com/duiker

duiker (dī`kər, dā`–), name for members of a group of small, light antelopes found in thick brush and forest over most of Africa. All stand under 25 in. (64 cm) high at the shoulder. They have arched backs, pointed faces, and short, sharp, straight horns; in most species the horns are present in both sexes. Solitary, mostly nocturnal animals, they dive into the brush when threatened; duiker means "diver" in Afrikaans.

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictionary.com/duiker

Duiker ("DIKE-er") is Afrikaans for "diver", due to their habit of bounding into the undergrowth when alarmed. Silva (Latin) a wood, a forest; capra (Latin) a she-goat. Named in honour of Dr. Hermann Nicolas Grimm, a German scientist who originally described the duiker as early as 1686, though it was named by Linnaeus in 1758.

http://www.ultimateungulate.com/Artioda ... immia.html

So Haupie, I think proper English would be Diver or a Ducker?

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Afrikaans: kakkerlak
Direct translation from Afrikaans to English: Sh#ts glue
Dutch: kakkerlak
Dutch Plural: kakkerlakken
English: cockroach
French: blatte , cafard , cancrelat , coquerelle (italbrac, Quebec)
German: Kakerlake(de, Schabe, f, t-, de)m
Italian: scarafaggio(it, blatta, f, {{t+, it)m
Spanish: cucaracha(es)f

Etymology: Spanish cucaracha, woodlouse

http://www.dutch-flashcards.com/translate-529

The OED lists the first spelling as kakkerlak, and gives its first definition as the "cockroach." Kakkerlak/kakerlak is derived from the Dutch word, but the OED says it also believed to be of S. American origin. How does that work? Well, the second definition of kakkerlak is the Dutch name for an albino in Java---colonized by the Dutch. We have this racist comment from 1777: "The Kackerlakes are a degenerate breed, not a separate class of men." Thus, we can now see the connection between kakkerlak and albino. The cockroach family, just in case you wanted a foster placement, is the Blattidae (only one of the families; blatta is Latin for "cockroach")...

http://www.drbilllong.com/2008WordsIV/KII.html

1. (zoology) A black or brown straight-winged insect of the order Blattodea, with about 3,500 species divided into six families. Only a few of these take up residence with human beings. Among these are (a), Periplaneta americana (American cockroach or palmetto bug; (b), Blattella germanica (German cockroach or Croton bug; and (c), Blattella asahinai, (Asian cockroach).

2. Disparaging term for individuals or groups of people regarded as dirty, or who breed like cockroaches. :slap:

http://www.allwords.com/word-cockroach.html

So Haupie, in my mind, in English cucaracha, woodlouse or cockroach will do... :thumbs_up:

And apart from being notorious, it is quite a famous insect also - even a song was composed in its honor... :wink:

"La Cucaracha" ("The Cockroach") is a traditional Spanish folk corrido, that became popular in Mexico during the Mexican Revolution. It has additionally become a verse played on car horns.

Inter alia performed by Niel Armstrong in 1935...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cucaracha

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Afrikaans: Suikerbekkie
English: Sugarbird
Direct translation from Afrikaans to English: Sugar lips :lol:

The sugarbirds are a small family, Promeropidae, of passerine birds which are restricted to southern Africa. The two species of sugarbird make up one of only two bird families restricted entirely to southern Africa, the other being the rock-jumpers Chaetopidae. In general appearance as well as habits they resemble large long-tailed sunbirds, but are possibly more closely related to the Australian honeyeaters. They have brownish plumage, the long down-curved bill typical of passerine nectar feeders, and long tail feathers.

* Gurney's Sugarbird, Promerops gurneyi
* Cape Sugarbird, Promerops cafer

http://ibc.lynxeds.com/family/sugarbirds-promeropidae
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugarbird

* Medium-sized nectarivores with long, slender decurved bill, strong feet with sharp-clawed medium-sized toes, short rounded wings, very long tail; plumage brown above, more rufous crown and chest, yellow undertail-coverts.
* Found mainly in fynbos and protea scrub in montane areas.

http://ibc.lynxeds.com/family/sugarbirds-promeropidae

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Afrikaans: Vos
English: Fox

1. a doglike wild animal with a pointed muzzle and a bushy tail
2. its reddish-brown or grey fur

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Fox

A carnivorous animal of the genus Vulpes, family Canidae, of many species. The European fox (V. vulgaris or V. vulpes), the American red fox (V. fulvus), the American gray fox (V. Virginianus), and the arctic, white, or blue, fox (V. lagopus) are well-known species.

http://ardictionary.com/Fox/5697

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