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 Post subject: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:28 pm 
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I was rather disappointed when my posts on Langebaan and the W.C.N.P.
drew no response.Nothing,niks,zilch,nada.I had hoped that we would get some interesting information about the huge deposits of fossilized FRESH WATER pearl-oyster or something about the rich history of the region that is now a National Park.Sadly,there don't seem to be Forumites in that part of the country,or the staff of Sanparks,who can respond with confidence.I am,however,at peace with that reality.

Having grown up at Langebaan and often visited the folks living at Oesterwal,Zeeberg,Bottelary,Geelbek and Churchaven and been on the fossilized oysterbanks and walked the sanddunes of Elandsfontein with the archeologists from the University of Cape Town and having trudged the footpaths from Rietbaai to Vondeling,I know that the WCNP has a history to tell that goes back millions of years to a period when interesting
animals and birds and later homo sapiens,roamed the humungous freshwater estuary which is now the WCNP.Surely,many mites read about
national parks in the forums,have their wonderlust whetted and then decide to go see for themselves.

If nothing else,go see the flowers on Postberg in early spring.Perhaps you will then respond to my request to report on your bestest sighting in any Cape Park. :D

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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 2:34 pm 
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AndreB - Where did you post it? I have not seen it. I know of 2 members in Langbaan; I have noticed them because I intend to go to the West Coast National Park next time I come to South Africa. The two are: Emile e Tony T.


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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:17 pm 
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Hi AndreB. I spent 2 days in WCNP in March, enjoyed it and got 2 lifers - Eurasian Curlew and Cape Penduline Tit. Every park has something unique to offer. We were unlucky with the weather though, but that happens on the West Coast, as you know. Cold wind and a drizzle on the first day and a howling wind on the second. Stayed in the cottage at Abrahamskraal and I can really recommend it, it is superb and has everything one needs. The fireplace is wonderful, especially during bad weather! It was interesting to see so many Black Harriers in that area.


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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:43 pm 
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Hi,AndreB,So and I will also visit this beautiful NP end of Sept.this year!!
We got a lot of information and pix here!!
It really looks like a wonderful part of your country!!

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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:47 pm 
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Andre, since you are a relative newbie forumite, might I suggest that you explore the forums more thoroughly before remarking on the lack of interest in WCNP. I have written two WCNP trip reports, as the park is a favourite of mine, and the park has been discussed in several Cape Parks threads. There is both interest and information — not, perhaps, in Chit Chat, but in more appropriate sections of the forum :)

An index to Cape Parks trip reports can be found here.


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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:02 pm 
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Thanks Micetta,Oryx,ingrid60 and Arks, for responding to my post about my hinterland.Long before I registered as member, I read what folks had posted about the WCNP.Especially people like Westcoaster,who spoke of places and views and fauna with authority and Annalie,whose posts about the flowers of the region filled me with heimwee and convinced me that many readers would like to discover this floral wonder.

When I posted "Langebaan:Lost,Found and..."under Cape Parks,the appropriate forum,I had hoped to elicit response about a variety of topics which give a different perspective to the Park.The origen of and present location of the fossilized freshwater oysterbeds,how the giant freshwater estuary that we know as the lagoon,has evolved until today(I hope many of you will be able to watch the insert on Langebaan on 50/50, SABC2 on 08-06-09).Because I believe in keeping memories fresh and thereby giving folks,who are not able to visit a particular region,the opportunityto "live"the memorable sightings other folks have had,I posted "My bestest sighting in any of the Cape Parks" and the response speaks for itself.

Do Yellowtail still spawn in the channels opposite Churchhaven? :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
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AndreB I will leave your question/post here for a few days, hoping you will get further reponses. Then I will move to the correct Forum. :D

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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:57 pm 
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Thanks, Jazil, for allowing more responses before moving my post.I chose to write about the WCNP on a topic which would hopefully be read by more folks(stats prove Chit Chat has more readers) and therefore draw attention to the history of a region that Sanparks has decided to develop
and protect.It is,however the RESPONSES which are worth their weight in
gold.Through our responses are we able to add value to any topic posted
on the Forums.

Thank to Sanparks,the Moderators and all who contribute to the Forums.
You all make it possible for me to "live" nature through the eyes and lenses
of others. :D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:14 pm 
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Nice words Andre - now the thread is at the top of active topics :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
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Thanks Micetta
Folks like yourself make sharing worth the effort!!! :D :D
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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
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:thumbs_up: Andre - today it is monday and we will see more people around.


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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:45 pm 
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In "Langebaan lost,found...",I posed the question why no mite has reacted to the information about the imminent expansion of the ore-harbour at Saldanha and the negative impact it will have on the ecology of the WCNP.The information I refer to was given not only in my posts, but also in the 50/50-programme of a fortnight ago.

The 50/50 insert on the threat to the park,concluded with the question whether the custodians of the WCNP(you, me and national parks)are not more concerned about people walking their dogs on the beach or illegally camping in the confines of the park than the destruction of nature that will take place as a result of the negative impact the harbour will have on the upper reaches of the lagoon,not to mention on what is left of the once pristine beaches of Langebaan.

What is your opinion?Do we have the right to express an opinion or our concern?Or do we argue that "at least the flowers won't be affected".

Do Yellowtail still spawn in the channels opposite Churchaven?

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 Post subject: Re: West Coast National Park:a new perspective?
Unread postPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 10:36 am 
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Excuse me for not having answered, the e-mail notifications have not worked lately.

Not only do we have a right to express our opinion and concern, I think it is our duty. Not everybody might agree but if a discussion is started it will create interest in the topic and from there it is easier to make things move.

Unfortunately I cannot exprees my opion on the present argument as I do not know enough about it. I am interested in the West Coast Park as it is my intention to visit it next year. :)


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