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Re: Mother instinct or blood thirsty.........

Unread postby Maddie88 » Sat Apr 11, 2009 3:57 am

Hi Ranger Grant,

It must have been such an emotional experience, to see witness something so bizarre yet so sad. I don't know much about mother nature and the way these animals think but I think it does have something to do with their motherly love.

We once saw a ride of lions pull down a buffalo calf near orpen. A few moments later the mother came back him (she was too late) and the lions killed her too. Then another buffalo came to see if he could help, but alas, she got killed to and they also pulled her baby from her, dragged it to the other baby carcass and started feeding. I will be more than happy to post the pics for you if you would like to see the carnage...

Thanks for sharing your story with us! :thumbs_up:
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Re: Mother instinct or blood thirsty.........

Unread postby onewithnature » Sat Apr 11, 2009 6:43 am

WOW - I'm both :big_eyes: :big_eyes: and in AWE too. Sometimes Nature seems so cruel in her clinical execution (literally sometimes) of events; other times, the tears never cease to flow as we empathise with human characteristics displayed in animals. Or maybe we are all connected at some esoteric level? Whatever, to see what you both saw is mega special; and one I'm certain you will never forget down to the minutest detail. I have yet to see a kill while it's happening.
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Re: Mother instinct or blood thirsty.........

Unread postby Maddie88 » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:10 am

It was an amazing sighting, must have been about 4 years ago.

This was the first mother that was killed when she came back...
(I had to play with photoshop to get you to see the pic better, so sorry about the quality! Great digitals were not yet a thing... )
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This is the female buffalo where they dragged the baby from her, taken with an old camera who still used films, hence the bad quality.
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U can see her pulling the stomach still....

This was where the two baby's lay, the lions where feeding. The bad light made most of the pics hard to make out what was going on...
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Count the little feet...

I should have more somewhere, but with the move to australia I can't seem to find them. Will post them as soon as I find them...
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Re: Mother instinct or blood thirsty.........

Unread postby Mike1916 » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:25 am

Thanks Maddie :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
What a sight :|
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Re: Mother instinct or blood thirsty.........

Unread postby oddesy » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:35 am

Thnaks maddie, what an experience :shock: :shock: :thumbs_up:
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Re: Mother instinct or blood thirsty.........

Unread postby Maddie88 » Sat Apr 11, 2009 10:48 am

Two strange things happened that day....

1st - There were NO cars! The whole day we sat there, there was nobody. We were on the S140 just outside Orpen camp, about 3km onto the road. It was very strange...

2nd - No hyena's, no cubs, no vultures! :big_eyes:

We were staying in Satara at the the time, so raced back leaving just enough time to make the gate, when we found a massive traffic jam, a Leopard, lying in the middle of the road, nobody was going to spoil it and pass....

Anyway, thanx for the comments guys! It was an eye opening experience to see that they actually hunt! heheheh :tongue:
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Re: Kruger animals in action!

Unread postby Maddie88 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:33 pm

Sallyana, brilliant shots and what an experience! :big_eyes:

We once saw a pride of lions, just outside Orpen that had killed a baby buffalo, then the mom came back for it and also got killed, then another buffalo came looking and also got killed and her unborn pulled from her! There were dead buffaloes everywhere and lions all over... It was specatcular! I never thought lions could kill so many at one spot....

Victory was hers....
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Re: Kruger animals in action!

Unread postby sallyanna » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:38 pm

wow maddie88, that must have been some sighting, what an experience it must have been to see more that one kill, but to see three buffalo taken down by lions in one day :big_eyes:
must have been gruesome to see the unborn calf.

i saw a lion kill at satara in august, missed the actual kill by a couple of hours but watched the lions eat the giraffe over three days, it must have taken ages for your lions to finish off three buffalo!!

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Re: Kruger animals in action!

Unread postby Maddie88 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 3:59 am

Sallyanna, this happened many years ago, I would guess about 6 years ago and we were the only car there. It was an awesome sight but strange at the same time! They had the two baby calfs under the tree,
(you can enlarge and count the feet...)

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In these days digital camera's were just about popping out so the previous photo was with a digital (hence so bright) and these were with a normal camera hence the poor quality.

Here's the other female.

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I'm not sure for how long they were there as we only saw this on our last night at Satara before heading North, so we never saw it again...

My folks also saw a giraffe kill when they were in Satara (S100) last October. They didn't see the actual kill, missed it by a few hours as well, but saw the feeding.

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Lion

Unread postby big5spotter » Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:06 pm

Ok lets see:
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Unread postby Yorkie » Sat Apr 18, 2009 9:29 pm

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Finally got it right too :clap:

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Blind (blue) eyed Lions

Unread postby big5spotter » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:44 pm

Can anyone shed some light on the situation?
During my last 2 visits to Kruger I saw lions that have a BLUE eye.On both occations it was near Lower Sabie.
The male was on the S28
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The female was on the H4-1
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Can anyone tell me what happened?My only guess is a Mozambique spitting cobra.
If you have seen a similar lion let me know where it was and if you have any pic's that would be awsome.
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Re: Blind (blue) eyed Lions

Unread postby DuQues » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:53 pm

The female is a known one I think. Have a look through the lionstopic, you'll see more photos of her.
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Re: Lion

Unread postby Mike1916 » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:54 pm

Here is a pic Richprins asked me to post here :thumbs_up:

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Re: Blind (blue) eyed Lions

Unread postby bushguy » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:01 pm

An eye that is dammaged (no matter what the dammage) usually responds in the same way: Inflamation and healing with the laying down of scar tissue which looks blue . These look like the cornea is blue, so one cannot see inside the eye itself to see if there is something in there. Generaly if eyes "go blue" due to a systemic disease, then both would be affected. This indicates that these lions have had trauma of sorts to the affected eye. Not sure if a cobra spit would affect the eye that much! These eyes have been affected for a long time , as there is no active inflamation visible.
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