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 Post subject: Re: Eland
Unread postPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 4:06 pm 
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Going throught my pocket size animal book last night ... I noticed the Eland ... another Antelope I would love to see ... Standing at an average of 1,70 meters at shoulder height, I was wondering if any of you have seen on of these majestic antelopes in the Park?


Addo is a good place to see them.


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Lots of eland in Mountain Zebra:

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Have only seen Eland in the Kruger in the north of the park. Saw a few in the Karoo. Hopefully will see more in Mountain Zebra.

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In June a group of 6 were seen just north of Mopani. I have also seen them fairly regularly around Babalala though not in June!

Never seen them further south though the books say they are there in small numbers.

Despite being a huge antelope (the largest) they are very 'shy' and rapidly dissappear when spotted.

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Cath wrote:
Are they not found in Kruger because they naturally don't occur in that type of habitat generally; are they there in larger numbers than is apparent but are rarely seen; or are there not that many of them due to some other reason?


They are found in Kruger ;-) about 3000 (Census-2003)

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All Eland to the South of the Olifants were eliminated by hunters before the inception of the Park. This is why you will only see them in the north.

The exception here is the re-introduced poppulation in the Pretoriuskop area, as well as a few individuals in the Satara area. These are escaped populations from bordering game farms.

Though Eland are generally known for migrations traveling huge distances, they do not exhibit this behaviour in the KNP. Here they follow a stable annual migration prompted by environmental considerations. Thus they do not naturally disperse over the whole park.
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A good Eland sighting every time when we are there is on the H1-8 [Elandskuil] and [Madadzidzi]. In august we saw a groep of about 40 animals.Also a good place for Lichtenstein's hartebeest and Tsessebe.

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We saw Eland on three occasions in Kruger.
The first time I could not believe my eyes as I knew that eland appears in the northern section of the park. The reason for disbelieve in my eyes was because we saw a small herd between Numbi gate and the Mestel Dam (it was during the early 80's).
We were leaving the park at Numbi and I ask the manager at the gate whether it could have been eland (as it they were quite far from the road).
He then informed me about the group that was trans-located to the Pretoriuskop region.

The next time I saw eland was in 1994 on the H9 near Phalaborwa gate (between the S131- and H14-junctions).
The last time I saw eland was 10 years ago (1995) north of Satara between the S90- and S127-junctions.

Last year (September) we were camping in Karoo National Park.
About every night two huge eland bulls came into the camp to eat on the Acacia Karoo trees.
The camp attendant (Japie) was not very happy with them as they really broke the trees to pieces.
We never saw them because with the slightest movement from human beings they ran off.
We heard them picking the leaves and also when they ran off if somebody tried to find out what was responsible for the noise in the camp.


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About 10 years ago I came across a small group of Eland at Sable Dam. They were at one end while a huge Lion pride (20+ )was at the other. Neither took any notice of the other but I was close enough to the Eland to hear their knees clicking. Once they were gone, I drove up to the other end and had a close encounter with the Lions.

The only other Eland sightings that I've had have been at Ngorongoro in Tanzania and in the Masai Mara in Kenya.

Never seen Roan in the KNP, my only sighting was at Serondela in Botswana.


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Heard a story from a ranger from a game park in natal :P ,
That the eland there declined a lot due to tick fever , and there natural migration used to be towards the highlands and the Drakensberg during summer .

Wonder if this is the same as with Kruger , maybe the Eland used to move into the mountains to the west of the park during the hot summer months .
For a monster of a antelope they sure as heck can climb though, like huge klipspringers almost .
Are there really 3000 in Kruger :o


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Elsa wrote:
3000 does seem like a lot to me especially as they are not seen all that often and not in big numbers.

I can't find any current census numbers for them in Kruger but the one book does list them as 570 way back in 1992. :roll:

Interesting to know what the latest figures are.


In my latest map book (2005 edition) it shows the number at 700.

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Sorry for doubting this, but i really just couldn't believe that there were 3000, and almost never seeing them.
So i did my own searching and wa-la... the Census for last year in Kruger indicated 300 eland and not 3000. :wink:
They are however in the process of changing it to this years stats 8)

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A bit of Google:
There are 750 eland in Kruger in 2004. (source).
There are 600 eland in Kruger in 2004. (source).
There are 300 eland in Kruger in 2004. (source).

Pick any one....

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DQ, I wouldn't say things like this by simply just doing a google search, and taking info of the first available site
My search was enquiring from the person IN Kruger at Scientific Services who actually work with this.
So this is the info on the eland (and other mammals) I got from them.
So for me... that's the official figure :wink:

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Guinea Pig wrote:
Had a close encounter with a huge herd of these
fast-becoming-my-fav-animals yesterday and noted some interesting behaviour.

This herd was large (250+) and they had babies with them (I counted 25 that I could see). What struck me was that all the young ones were with one cow. I looked so funny! :lol: They were following her everywhere.

Never knew that Eland have a creché-system!


That must have been the most amazing sight, where did you see this spectacle? :shock:

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