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Unread postby arks » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:44 pm

Found this article on evidence of Knysna ellies today.
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Unread postby nicoladt » Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:12 pm

Photos taken by Hylton Herd - Chief SANparks forester for the Garden Route, (with the help of SANparks' ellie trackers & forest guards) on 22 March '07, near Jubilee Creek:

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Apparently the above ellie is the same lonely creature as the one that featured in the Knysna-Plett Herald (identified by the blood vessel patterns on its ears), and as far as I'm aware, no second individual has been spotted yet:

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The above photo was apparently taken on 4 April 2006 at 16h22, by Wilfred Oraai:
Accompanying text from the original Sanparks mail (that was forwarded to the Herald and used in the article too): "...Not a good picture as the elephant was standing behind a tall fynbos bush, but will still be of use to SANPARKS as the elephants left ear is almost clearly in focus and shows blood vessel patterning that serves as a fingerprint when used for comparison with other photographs, a system that was used successfully in the Addo elephant park in distinguishing individuals. Wilfred Oraai, Karel Maswattii, experienced forest elephant trackers were on the usual weekly search in the Goudveld area for elephant signs when they came across fresh tracks."

"Assessing prevailing weather conditions, they split up and took up strategic points in order to get a photo of the animal. Suddenly Wilfred heard cracking noises about 60m ahead of him and climbed a young pine tree to get a better angle. As he zoomed in and focused the video camera on the animal, the branch he was standing on broke and he fell to the ground, camera and all. The elephant heard the commotion and ran off, unfortunately in Wilfred’s direction. When Wilfred eventually got to his feet the animal was very close to him but fortunately ran past. Wilfred was just lucky to be alive and thanked the powers that be for this. Particularly so as this was Fynbos which poses far more danger when encountering elephant..."

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Unread postby Stomstom » Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:08 am

Morning all

I just have to add my two cents worth on the Elephants of the forest... On May 27 on our way to the Outeniqua Trout Farm along the Diepvalle road we came across the freshly munched on branches which some Ellie happened to drop...It was do exciting as a novice nature lover to experience this and see the distinct foot padded foot prints left behind.

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Unread postby arks » Tue Jul 03, 2007 1:22 pm

Another article regarding further evidence of Knysna ellies 8)
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Unread postby dianne » Tue Jul 03, 2007 2:13 pm

Thanks arks

This article has appeared in a number of publications-both print and online. Jill Gordon, the manager of Wilderness National Park, is going to see if we can hear more about this in the future on the website!

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Unread postby DuQues » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:26 pm

diannet wrote:This article has appeared in a number of publications-both print and online. Jill Gordon, the manager of Wilderness National Park, is going to see if we can hear more about this in the future on the website!

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Unread postby pantera leo » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:17 am

Hello

Has anyone had any updates on the elephants of The Knysna forest since June 2007.

This Forest has always held a special part of my hart and I would love to hear of any news regarding not only its ellies but also of animals like the leopards, Blue Duiker, Knysna Lourie etc.

In the June 2007 article I see they are talking about Knysna buffs which I have never heard of can anyone provide info on this please.

Very much appreciated :clap:

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Unread postby Henk » Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:27 pm

pantera leo wrote:I would love to hear of any news regarding not only its ellies but also of animals like the leopards, Blue Duiker, Knysna Lourie etc.


I don't no about the other but according to the amount of sightings the Lourie is doing fine. I also saw good numbers of Bushbuck and Bushpic in resent years.

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Unread postby dalts » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:00 am

Hi all,

Yes you will definitely hear louries, even if you don't see them, and bushbuck are also frequently seen. So far as leopard go there is apparently one every 23Km2 in the forest but you are very,very unlikely to see one. Blue Duiker are nocturnal and very secretive so rarely seen, however you may come across bushpig at night, and certainly see evidence of them during the day.

The most recent rumours I have come across about the ellies is that following DNA studies on dung it is believed there are 5, one of which is a calf. If you walk in the forest you are likely to come across tracks and dung.

This is the first I've heard about Knysna Buffs, but who knows what's lurking in the forest there...

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Re: Knysna Elephants

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Re: Knysna Elephants

Unread postby BUILLAS » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:46 pm

Hello everyone,

I 'm following passionately recent episodes of the forest elephants of Knysna.
DNA forest elephant is different from those of savannah.
the South African population of elephants in forest leaves little hope on the viability of such a population.
Elephant Central Africa (Cameroon-Congo) is it the same DNA as that of South Africa?
If so is it possible to relocate people of Congo to South Africa to strengthen the genetic potential?
there are also other benefits of such an operation: no more a secret that the national parks of Central Africa are drilled baskets for poachers,
populations of forest elephants of Central Africa are decimated for bushmeat, ivory, which is very good, and the logging companies.
South Africa is an example in the management of national parks, although it was decried in the past, only the results count!
I am really interested if anyone could tell me about this and if such a project is not what would it take to implement it?
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Re: Knysna Elephants

Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon Dec 08, 2008 6:56 am

Hi Buillas,

I for one would love to see the population being strengthened once again. How awesome would that be? :thumbs_up:

But on the other hand I have realized something else.

SANP have translocated a group of Kruger elephants to the forest a few years back. Well they've tried I have to say perhaps. The elephants did not enjoy the forest as much as what was hoped for and they continued to slip out of the forest area to venture onto open land and in some instances caused severe damage to neighboring farmers' crops.

This group of Kruger ele's now find themselves in Addo.

To me it signifies an important thing. And the most important is that perhaps the Knysna Elephants were never supposed to have been in the forest in the first place. They were forced in there as a place of refuge as their numbers pummeled to extinction through the art of hunting and as a result adapted to there surroundings in order to survive.

Secondly, now I can't recall the exact details, an article suggested that there were 5 or 6 individuals left in the Knysna forest and that one individual is estimated to be a young calf.

Like I said I would to see the numbers pick up again. But perhaps the lack of elephants in the forest is a great sign that elephant conservation is prolific. :D
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Unread postby wildtuinman » Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:37 am

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Unread postby saraf » Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:08 pm

Poor thing, she must be ever so lonely given that female elephants normally live in family groups.
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Re: Knysna Elephants

Unread postby wildtuinman » Thu Dec 11, 2008 9:45 am

Hi Saraf,

It is a very interesting thought.

My opinion is that everything natural to an elephant was taken away the moment they have decided to flee into the forest. And therefore something like living in a herd gave way to pure survival. I would like to think that she won't be to bothered about her current life, but then again, I am not her and my logical human thoughts and emotions are completely different.

Just something of a personal note: I stood there at the exact same spot last year this time where this elephant was seen now. I would probably have had to wipe my eyes out a few times and empty my stainless steel brandy flask had I seen this sighting. :lol:

I am however still surprised that some believe that there is only this one elephant left in the forest. Many articles I have read suggested that there were at least 5 individuals. :?
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