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Flycatcher, Southern Black

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:28 pm

The Southern Black Flycatcher, Melaenornis pammelaina, is a quiet, resident bird that hunts singly or in pairs from perches in open wooded areas. This flycatcher is often seen in the company of fork-tailed drongos that it resembles superficially. The drongos are distinguishable by their red eyes and typically forked tails.

This flycatcher hunts prey on the ground three out of four times with the rest of prey caught on the wing or gleaning the tree trunks. In tough times it will resort to eating nectar and fruit.

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Re: Flycatcher, Southern Black

Unread postby Batmad » Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:11 pm

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Spotted Cat » Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:00 pm

This was not taken in Kruger, can anyone help me with an id please? :?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Niall » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:49 am

Oh cool, was it taken in Malaysia or somewhere like that then?

It is an immature bird, I'll need to look a little longer and harder....

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Niall » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:54 am

....possibly immature Southern Black Flycatcher.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Spotted Cat » Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:30 pm

Hi Niall,
The pic was taken by a friend of mine in the Umfolozi Game Reserve, Kwa Zulu Natal.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Kooscra » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:41 am

My guess is.....European Starling[non breeding/immature-hence the black beak] 8)

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Sprocky » Sun Jan 17, 2010 7:44 am

I agree with Kooscra on the European Starling. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby deefstes » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:48 am

No, the bird is definitely not a European Starling. Not only is the bill black (it would be yellow or dull greenish in non-breeding/juv) but it is also the completely wrong shape and size for European Starling. The Starling has a fairly big and long bill with a very sharp tip. This bill clearly belongs to an insect eater.

It would be very difficult to say with absolute certainty based on this one picture but I'd think that Niall is quite correct in it being a Southern Black Flycatcher.

You can see Southern Black Flycatchers in similar plumage here:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Spotted Cat » Sun Jan 17, 2010 4:28 pm

deefstes, thanks for the links! :thumbs_up: I'll pass the info on to my friend :whistle:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby ecojunkie » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:19 am

Is this a European thrush? It's the only thing I can think of, and cannot find it in my books here. Or is just a juvenile/female that is not depicted in the books I have?
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Kooscra » Sat Jan 23, 2010 9:44 am

Deefstes,I agree on Southern Black Flycatcher. :thumbs_up: The second pic looks like the same species? :hmz:

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby ecojunkie » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:01 am

I did not look at previous posts when I posted my pic - but it looks like the same speices????
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Rusty Justy » Sat Jan 23, 2010 10:23 am

Thats a young Southern Black Flycatcher.......
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Johan N » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:50 pm

I am not sure if this is a Forktailed drongo as the tail does not look like a normal Forktailed one - sorry but this is the only photo of the tail from the back. The eye around the pupil seems red but its not clearly visible in this small version.

Is this a Forktailed drongo?

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