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Myna: Common Myna

Unread postby j-ms » Thu Oct 25, 2007 6:46 am

One of the very few disappointing moments lam and I experienced on our recent trip to KNP was the sighting of 2 Common Mynas (Acridotheres tristis) or Indian Mynas at the Punda Maria camp's waterhole. Has anyone seen these dreadful birds that far north before ?

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Unread postby richardharris » Thu Oct 25, 2007 8:13 am

And no, I have not seen them up there. I think I have seen them twice in recent years but I think it was south of Satara.

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Unread postby Johann » Thu Oct 25, 2007 9:26 am

Please tell me you reported it straight away. They need to be removed.

I've seen them at the Baobab toll plaza just south of Musina but not in the park itself. If I remember correctly we also saw them on the farms surrounding Mapungubwe.
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Unread postby j-ms » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:51 am

Last week Wednesday at midday.

We were camping at the fence next to the waterhole when they flew from the eastern side of the camp to the waterhole. They settled in a Mopane in the camp first (which is where I saw them) and then went to drink at the waterhole before continuing westwards.

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Unread postby leopardspotter » Sun Oct 28, 2007 5:35 pm

Hi guys, I don't know to much about the behaviour of Common Mynas. Why do they need to be moved?

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Unread postby j-ms » Sun Oct 28, 2007 6:57 pm

Common Mynas are aggressive alien invaders that invariably displace local species in the areas in which they gain a foothold. AFAIK, the policy in KNP is to destroy them on sight.

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Unread postby Jay » Sun Oct 28, 2007 7:09 pm

interesting article j-ms...find it interesting that they haven't found conclusive evidence that Mynas are in fact a threat to biodiversity.

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Unread postby Johann » Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:48 am

I asked Owl to have a look at this thread on Thursday and he has sent the details to KNP's Alien Invasive Unit. They'll then take the necessary steps.
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Unread postby j-ms » Wed Nov 07, 2007 4:55 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:What about crows, hadedas and European starlings, aren't they also bad news for SA.


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Crows ? Pied, Black and White-necked are all indigenous while House Crows have limited distribution in SA.
Hadedahs ? This is one of the archetypal birds of Africa !
European (Common) Starlings are to my mind a menace.

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Unread postby mountainview » Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:07 pm

Saw them at Punda camp in the camping site last week [week ending 3rd November]. I subsequently saw a pamphlet on the Indian Myna in which it stated that the Limpopo Environment Act had gazetted that the Indian Myna be an alien invader and that they should be destroyed [including nesting sites]. BTW so was the Mallard.
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Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:53 am

I would love to hear opinions on the Indian Mynas.
I know that they are considered to be a pest and alliens that pose problems for our indiginious birds.

How do other people deal with this?
What are your views?
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Unread postby Mgoddard » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:56 am

MM I cant speak for those in S.A, but here where I live they are 1 of the only 3 birds in my garden and I love them, yes they are a pest, but they give me many weekends of trying out my camera and lenses.. :D they can be very commical :lol:

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Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:02 am

I enjoy their gregarious, cheeky nature, Mgoddard.
I do know of some folk who absolutely hate them.
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Unread postby Shidzidzii » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:21 am

Being so gregarious Indian Myna was actualy the first bird I realy watched intensivly (in Durban on holiday) not even knowing it was a pest . that was at about 18 years of age and I only got my first Roberts about a year later altho I had been fascinated by a library copy at about 11 years of age and did not even believe some of the bird illustrations were true . i had also been exposed to the cigarette cards book of SA birds .

So I suppose we have to accept the Indian Myna and the European Starling (Cape coastal region) are naturalized South African birds and let nature find a balance . In earth's history birds have colonized so it is a natural selection albeit influenced my humans .

There is just one thing - don't let either of these birds start nesting in your roof cavity . Once they have established a nest once then that is it for life , and no amount of closing of holes will stop them from re-opening it - even bricks, mortar and steel will be pecked open. Then you have to eradicate that pair .
But if they can't find an ever so small opening in the first place you won't have the problem , so see that your beam infilling is good and the best is wire mesh under the eaves .

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Re: Myna: Common Myna

Unread postby Beefmaster » Sat Oct 11, 2008 6:29 pm

Hi guys, I believe that these birds are out control, they keep spreading to new areas and breeding there. I was in Tamboti a few weeks ago and saw a pair there... I personall hate them, so I bought a pellet gun and shoot them mercilessly here in Middelburg. They chase other birds out of my garden and it costs me a fortune to feed them all!! :)


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