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Goshawk, African

Unread postby Kwando » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:28 am

Hi all..

I got this one as a Juv/Immature African Goshawk...
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Unread postby Deville » Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:33 pm

Please help with the Id of this raptor.
I have identified it as a Black Sparrowhawk but not sure.
Found it in the riverine thickets on the Timbavati River near Bobbejaanskrans.

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Unread postby Johann » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:23 pm

Hi Deville,
The Black Sparrowhawk is quite a big bird. Yours seems bit small to me in comparison.
BS also don't show these facial markings. Unfortunately we can't see the chest and belly markings properly but I'll go with an immature African Goshawk.
Right size, facial markings, they have these bold drop-shaped blotches on the chest and belly with some barring on the flanks. Think we can see some of these markings in your pic.

Let's see what people like TG, Deefstes and the others have to say but immature African Goshawk's got my vote.

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Unread postby francoisd » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:00 am

Hi Delville, hope you don't mind me adjusting your photo a little. Just wanted to bring a little more light to it.

I agree with Johann on the young African Goshawk ID.
Pity it did not turn so that you could get a shot of the markings infront, but birds don't read photography manuals.

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Unread postby Jumbo » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:05 pm

A “painful, agonizing” thanks to WTM :twisted: ….only joking, I appreciate the help. :D
I have another one that I also need help with…seen in my garden in Maputo.

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Unread postby deefstes » Mon Sep 10, 2007 2:51 pm

Juvenile African Goshawk. Awesome shots of a fantastic bird!
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Unread postby Johann » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:03 pm

Yip, imm African Goshawk.

Possible confusion with an imm Little Sparrowhawk but they don't show the white eyebrow you can see on your pic.
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Unread postby deefstes » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:12 pm

The dark line down the centre of the throat is also a clincher.
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Unread postby Jumbo » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:41 pm

Thank you VERY much!! :D
This guy sat in the palm for more that an hour watching the birds that come to eat at the feeders. Initially I did think it was a young Little Sparrowhawk because we have had one in the garden before, but this guy looked bigger and its tail was longer.

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Unread postby deefstes » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:47 pm

Jumbo wrote:Thank you VERY much!! :D
This guy sat in the palm for more that an hour watching the birds that come to eat at the feeders. Initially I did think it was a young Little Sparrowhawk because we have had one in the garden before, but this guy looked bigger and its tail was longer.


Indeed, if you are familiar with Little Sparrowhawk, it would take you no more than a fraction of a second to notice that this kêrel is MUCH bigger. There are other accipiters that can be tricky to seperate but these are actually pretty easy. I bet you'd never struggle with him again. :wink:
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Unread postby francoisd » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:39 pm

Both male and female African Cuckoo Hawk shows a grey throat and upper breast as far as I know. Something this bird is not showing.
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Unread postby francoisd » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:45 pm

See deefstes corrected his African Cuckoo Hawk remark while I posted.

I agree with African Goshawk. SASOL show this bird with a wholly bared throat and no white on the rump but Roberts PDA version has a photo of a female African Goshawk which looks like the one in the photo posted here
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Unread postby deefstes » Fri Oct 19, 2007 2:50 pm

francoisd wrote:Both male and female African Cuckoo Hawk shows a grey throat and upper breast as far as I know. Something this bird is not showing.


The female actually do have a "lightly streaked buff throat and neck" which is where I went wrong on this bird.
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Unread postby Imberbe » Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:51 pm

Given the additional size and habitat description, I agree with the African Goshawk i.d. :wink:
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Unread postby Jay » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:48 pm

Jumbo wrote:Seen in my garden in Maputo (was ID in ID thread a while ago).
Jay, is this the same colorization…looks a bit lighter to me.



the savanna juvenile (yours and RP's0 have the distinctive big brown spots Jumbo, where as the rainforest juvenile is buff or plain white below...and as per usual juveniles are pretty variable colour-wise :wink:
awesome pic Jumbo 8)hope it makes it into the virtual bird guide hint hint :wink: ..if it frequents your garden ( :mrgreen: ) can you perhaps keep notes on its activities, habitual times of visiting your garden etc?


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