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Eagle, Tawny

Unread postby Andy Pay » Sun Nov 19, 2006 8:06 pm

Seen on S100, Satara, August this year:
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Unread postby Elsa » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:12 pm

These 3 Tawny Eagles, the parents and chick with their nest all had remarkably different coloured plumage.
We initially wondered if they could have been the same species but then the one adult bird started feeding the chick, the one low down on the right.
Would this be a correct ID?

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Unread postby Johann » Tue Nov 21, 2006 2:20 pm

Yes, it seems right Elsa. You've got a pale morph on the left and normal or maybe streaky one on the top branch. Thus giving a different coloured chick I suppose.
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Unread postby bucky » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:38 am

Ok , what about this 1 .
I havent got a frontal shot .

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Unread postby bucky » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:44 am

Looks like a midget tawny eagle to me wtm :P

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Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:48 am

Yours looks like tawny buckster... :wink:

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Unread postby Elsa » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:26 pm

This large Eagle was sitting on a termite nest eating them as they emerged, and after some serious debating in the car we still could not all agree on exactly what it was. :?
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Unread postby arks » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:21 pm

I'm going to make a totally wild guess here, that this is a sub-adult steppe eagle. My Newman's says that it "feeds on the ground at termite emergences" and also that it is very dark brown, but that the sub-sults "may still have light patches on wing".
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Unread postby Jay » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:27 pm

arks, " the book says" :wink: that the gape of the Steppe eagle stretched beyond the middle of the eye, but this one doesn't seem to, or do you disagree?

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Unread postby Elsa » Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:39 pm

The gape is what had us confused and throwing names around!! :?
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Unread postby MarkWildDog » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:00 pm

Elsa,

Your raptor is indeed a Steppe Eagle. No doubt about it the colouring and it's features are very distinct, I can understand why the gape is causing so much confusion. Okay there are 2 sub-species of Steppe Eagle the first (A.n nipalensis), has a gape which almost extends past the eye, while the second (A.n orientalis) has a gape which is exact with the eye, but in some birds the gape can be shorter. I don't think it could be a Tawny Eagle the colouring is just to way off. So I'm sticking with Steppe Eagle.

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Unread postby Johann » Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:18 pm

IMHO the jiss of the bird tells me to go with Black Kite

but BBJ's are definitely not my strong point so let's see what Deefstes or some of the other experienced guys have to say.
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Unread postby Jay » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:44 pm

the only thing that threw me off a black kite was Elsa said it was a big bird, and black kite's are not that big :?

ofcourse contradicting you Johann is most likely plain dumb :wink: :lol:

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Unread postby Johann » Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:59 pm

Jay wrote:the only thing that threw me off a black kite was Elsa said it was a big bird, and black kite's are not that big :?

ofcourse contradicting you Johann is most likely plain dumb :wink: :lol:


Thanks Jay, very flattering but I've been completely wrong on BBJ's before. This surely won't be the first time :)

Black Kite is equal in size to Wahlberg's 51-60cm (medium)
Steppe Eagle equal to Fish Eagle and others 65-80cm (large)

According to pics I've looked at, Steppe shows a big, strong bill. This just doesn't give me that same feeling. Wing length also makes me lean towards the kite. Steppe's wings almost come to the end of the tail. This bird shows a shorter wing.

One thing that does bother me is the fleshy and prominent gape. Could it be the dark form of the Tawny? (66-73cm) Can't find photo's of that one at the moment though.

I don't know. Let's wait for some of the other guys to answer as well.
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Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:20 am

First set of pics with bird on termite heap = Black kite.
Second set of pics = Imm bateleur.


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