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 Post subject: Re: KTP or Mokala???
Unread postPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:47 am 
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If the road from KTP to Johannesburg was in a good condition without road works and hold-ups, and keeping in mind that the whole of SA will be travelling home at the same time, I'd say go to KTP, but because of the extensive roadworks around Kuruman, it becomes a very long and very tiring journey. If you go to Mokala, you have less distance to travel on better roads. Take into consideration your family members, and see how they feel about travelling under such conditions. I'd go for Mokala (my head tells me so), and maybe save KTP for another time when there's less pressure. We stayed at Lilydale rest camp, and loved every minute of it. (having said that, we've just managed to get a 7 night booking at KTP over Easter next year :dance: )

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 Post subject: Re: KTP or Mokala???
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Thanks for your opinion, Lonehill_Birders! :thumbs_up: Oh my - I was not aware of the road... do you think there may be a chance of the roadworks being completed by Dec 2013? Who knows... It's SA! :tongue: For now, we actually have the booking for KTP. SO is fine with the idea of driving far on the last day. Will have to keep an eye on that road situation... :hmz:

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 Post subject: Marakele, Mapungubwe, Northern Kruger + KTP?
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It is all my wife's fault! I went to watch a county cricket match today and left my laptop open with Shane's KTP TR from December time when he proposed to his now fiancee. My wife read the entire TR and decided she wants to go to KTP more than anywhere else in the entire world... I missed a beautiful (apparently) six from Graeme Smith whilst reading her excited messages to me, whilst I sat in the stands!

Anyway.. I really wanted to got to Northern Kruger and Mapungubwe, so I wondered about the feasibility of combining Mapungubwe, Punda Maria, Shingwedzi, Olifants, Marakele and KTP in a 3-4 week holiday? The distances look huge, but we have done 8 hour driving days a few times e.g. Lower Sabie to St Lucia, and of course breaking up the KTP drive would not be the end of the world. I am also worried about the expense, as we usually hire a VW Polo! We would fly into SA early August 2014, and leave after 3-4 weeks.

I know it is ages away, but it looks like the type of holiday to have planned and booked 11 months in advance, what with popularity of camps in KTP etc!

Anyway, I would massively appreciate it if you let me know whether we would be biting off a little too much?!

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 Post subject: Re: Marakele, Mapungubwe, Northern Kruger + KTP?
Unread postPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:52 pm 
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Graham, you could do it, it will be long drives, but if you plan your trip properly, it should be possible to fit all your wishlist places in.
You could start by going to KNP, staying over first at Olifants, then Shingwedzi, Punda Maria. Leave the park through Pafuri Gate, travel to Mapungubwe through Messina.
From Mapungubwe you could go to Marakele.
From Marakele you could choose to drive through Botswana to KTP (there is a new road through Bots) or via the N4 towards Mafikeng, and down to Vryburg, then on to Upington, and up to Twee Rivieren
Then start your visit at Twee Rivieren, and take it from there
Coming back to Johannesburg from KTP is difficult to do in 1 day, but just outside Kuruman is a great overnight place, I can't mention the name here. If you need info, pm me.
Another option would be to fly back to Jhb from Upington.

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 Post subject: Re: Marakele, Mapungubwe, Northern Kruger + KTP?
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Thanks for your reply - that is really useful to know. I have PMed you regarding the place near Kuruman, as driving is perhaps cheaper than flying, but the distances look massive, even if the roads are fairly straight and easy to drive on!! Speaking of which, what are the roads like in that bit of Bots?

Thanks so much.

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 Post subject: Kgalagadi in January
Unread postPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:01 pm 
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Hi all,
I'm preparing a short visit in Kgalagadi from 2 to 10 january.
I prefere to reserve the rooms in advance, so, where is better to stay in this month to see wildlife?

I thougth
2-3 twee r.
4-5-6 Nossob
7- 8- 9 KTC or Mata Mata

It can be ok?
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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi in January
Unread postPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 7:58 am 
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welcome to the forum lasabbry :D

:dance: going to Kgalagadi... soon... very soon

you have to reserve in advance, the places (chalet/rooms/cabins) fly away very fast :wink:

seems to be super, but just coming from Upington airport is a little bit short, after me :whistle:
and don't forget the way from Mata Mata (or KTC is the same) is long to... Upington :wink:

but better short than nothing :dance: :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi in January
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Thank you for the welcome!!!
I know, it's not enough time but I can't take other holidays!
And we will spend two days on the plain, from Milan, Italy...

Do you think is possible to do Mata-Mata - Upington in one day? I hope to find the flight that takes off at 17.20.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: itinerary advice
Unread postPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 2:38 pm 
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Good day

We plan a trip to Kgalagadi next year. We thought of September. Don't want to go during rain season because we do camping in a ground tent. Do you think September is ok or will you recommended a beter month.

We thought of : 2 nights at TR
3 nights at Mata Mata
3 nights at Nossop
1 or 2 nights at TR

It will be our first visit and have no idea if we will stay to short/long in one camp.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: itinerary advice
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September is a very good time - if you can get in.

It is not as 'civilised' as Kruger. Your itinerary is great for the first time.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi: itinerary advice
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Thanks Bush Baptist. We are going to try hard for September.


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 Post subject: booking for kgalagadi
Unread postPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:12 pm 
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Hello to all

Coming to Kgalagadi in May 2014 from the US and have question on booking for the wilderness camps.

I see online booking starts later.

There is a request form that sends an e mail to SanParks, would this be timely enough or do I need to telephone and what time of day is best for that.

As this is my 60th birthday treat do not want to miss out on the wilderness camps.

Thanks for your help
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 Post subject: Re: booking for kgalagadi
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Welcome to the forum tusk.

Bookings start 11 months in advance.

I would send an email on 1 June.

My choice would be Urikaruus and Grootkolk, but if you can stay at the lot, why not!

Just remember you need a 4x4 to go to Bitterpan & Gharagab.

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 Post subject: Re: booking for kgalagadi
Unread postPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:57 pm 
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Thanks BB

Was thinking
2R for late arrival ...... travelling from and back to family in little old Springs, Gauteng
Nossob 2 nights to enjoy a drive and possibly walk
KTC 2 nights
Urikaruus 3 nights
2R last night for early departure back to family

Would love to go to Grootkolk but a bit wary of the long travel times, used to Kruger with its tar roads when in a bit of a hurry. Also want to leave enough time to just sit and be at one with nature.

Question on the honeymoon tent at KTP (for my son and daughter-in-law who will be coming with). I hear it is a bit far from the waterhole, any further info on that will be welcome. Otherwise I read #7 and 8 are good.

Also a question on the shops. Keep reading on the limited amount of groceries. Typically we would buy lamb wors,marinated chicken(flatties),beetroot salad,curried green bean salad in cartons, some canned fruits (guavas),ultramel, fruit juice, coffee, tea, sugar. Usually bring lots with us but occasionally run out. Can you give me any info on that.

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 Post subject: Re: booking for kgalagadi
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welcome to the forum tusk :D

at KTP the best view is from No 5 (as per the keeper)
but the tent No 1 (honeymoon) is the best tent :wink: nobody both side :whistle:

for grocery and all you need, better to do shoping at Upington (or elsewhere before)
try to stay once in a camp with electricity, once without etc...

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