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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 6:15 pm 
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The Steppe Buzzards look so different and I wonder if this one, seen on a pole close to the sea north of Cape Town, also is Steppe Buzzard? It looked much bigger than the ones seen close to Agulhas.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Looks like an immature black chested snake eagle to me Birgitta, but they are not usually within 100 km or so of Cape Town.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:41 pm 
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That sounds and looks very reasonable to me. We saw the bird south of Rocherpan (Cape Nature Reserve) that we had visited and before Velddrif which is 157 km from Cape Town according to information on internet.

To me the bird was really bigger than a buzzard, and with that yellow eye.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I hear what you say about the size, but it just doesn't look like a snake-eagle to me.

What about juvenile jackal buzzard? :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Velddrif is known for good populations of Jackal Buzzards, so I would say this is a juvie Jackal Buzzard.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I'll go with DotDan on this, because of the lack of any barring on the tail - and the location logic.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Here is a photo of a juvenile Jackal Buzzard that I took 2 years ago. Notice the similarities?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks for your comments. I do not want to dispute your expertice but to me the bird seemed bigger than this one, which I am quite confident being a juvenil Jackal Buzzard, also seen i WC (Bredasdorp) a few days earlier:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Well, it is not a snake eagle. The shape of the head isn't right, the colouring isn't right.

The second (smaller) bird posted is an adult (dark brown rather than light brown) eyes, so it cannot be a jackal buzzard. I think this one is an adult Steppe buzzard, while the larger one (first pic) is a juvenile jackal buzzard.

That said, remember that all species have a normal size distribution, with most mid-size, some smaller than average and some larger than average. Maybe this one (the first pic) is right at the top of the scale? I see, for example, that Steppe buzzards can range between 40 and 58 cm, while jackal buzzard range between 45 and 55 cm...


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Forgot to mention, DotDan's bird is also a juvenile - light coloured eye...


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thank you everyone sorting out the differences and identifying the birds on my photos.

It has really been helpful and educational.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I have seen some rather large jackies.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi. I'm new to this part of the forum and to the birding forum as a whole so please forgive my ignorance. This raptor was seen at the Golden Gate National Park in December. The pictures aren't great and the bird was sitting in direct sunlight which may have affected the colouration, but any help would be appreciated

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I'd go with Jackal Buzzard.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Me too. Looks like a lovely Jacky.

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