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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:18 pm 
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A couple more that have me stumped, seen along the R407 north of Prins Albert (not sure whether this is considered Karoo or Klein Karoo?) on 6 October 2009. And also I had inadvertently — have NO idea how :roll: — set my camera for tungsten exposure, hence the "blue wash" on these pix :redface: :evil:

I'm thinking that this might be a Karoo robin, possibly a juvenile? altho the "edging" on the wings would indicate not?
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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White throat patch -- 100% on the Karoo Scrub-Robin

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:35 pm 
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The shape and colour don't look right for Karoo Scrub-robin to me. All the ones I saw in WCNP always looked dull brown above, slightly paler below with a prominent supercilium with a blackish, white-tipped tail (the white tips are always a give away if it flies away from you) the tail also always appeared quite long. The jizz of your bird looks more like a Cercomela chat to me, short tailed with very long legs but I wouldn't like to say which one!

You should be able to remove the colour cast easy enough in photoshop and crop in a bit more to make the bird a bit more of a frame filler.

Added a couple of Karoo Scrub-robins from WCNP for ref.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Tricky arks

Photo 1 I would say certainly looks like Karoo Scrub Robin. Not as pale below together with the white throat patch.

I must admit that I only have Sasol 3 with me and I haven't seen these species for years, thus my recollection of flight gizz and wing patterns is sadly lacking.

Not that this help.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hanno, many thanks for your detailed reply here. Because of the inadvertant tungsten setting :wall: I'm sure some details are distorted too.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Photo 1 is a Karoo Scrub-Robin.I am fairly certain of this.

Darker underside and white throat patch indicates the id of the photo.

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Thanks JenB and DuQues!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Many, many thanks, Hanno, for your above-and-beyond efforts with my pix — and for your definitive ID.

Those were the last of my "mystery birds" from my recent trip, and I find that I have added another 11 lifers to my list :dance:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:37 pm 
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Hello all

I would appreciaate some help. I took the following photos yeterday afternoon on Paaarl mountain. i have searched Sasol and Robeerts and neither have enabled me to make a positive ID, so here are my suggestions - I would really appreciate confirmation.

Willow Warbler based on the eyebroe extending behind the eye (but the belly is not really yellow) but the season and location means it is possible.

or: Lesser-swamp warbler: Conspicuous white eyebrow, light underparts.

All the photos show thinnish beaks. I noted the birds were eaitng insects. At times there was agression between the tree birds that were there. When I examined the photos at home I was also struck by the rather bold back marking on the bird in the photo where there is a pair. So I am really confused.

I don't like to post photos and simply ask the forum to tell me what they are - I feel it is my duty to have a good look through the books and hazard an informed try. This I have done but I have neber before felt to unsure. Last time I got it spot on with a cisticola and was very proud. This time... For all I know there could be two species! If only I could have found that shrike that was calling the whole time I was taking these photos!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Pete,

Nearest I can find is Karoo Scrub-robin. Looks like your first two photos are of a juv, with the last two being adults.

Have a look at pics on here:

http://www.birdpics.co.za/

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:27 pm 
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Hi Barcud

I reckon you are exactly correct - Karoo Scrub Robin, the clincher being the white at the tip of the tail that I now see in my notes as being conspicuous in flight. Thanks so much for helping out - my inital ID was WAY off the mark. That's what I love about this forum; every time I take part I learn something new about my hobby. Having so many juveniles about at the moment makes life difficult for us beginners.

Now the good news: the Karoo Scrub Robin means I can tick a lifer! Thanks barcud.

Keep well
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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
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Please help me to identify this bird seen in Addo in December:

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Thank you in advance.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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This one is a Karoo scrub-robin.


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:clap: :clap: Thank you so much, arks, for your help.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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This one has me totally :wall: :wall: :wall: I haven't a clue, really, what it might be -- chat? warbler? flycatcher? :wall: :wall: :wall: Or am I missing something obvious? :hmz: :wall:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Arks, I may be corrected but your bird looks like a female sunbird, but which one I could not say with any certainty. Look at the answers for the Bird ID Challenge #1 for 2013, posted by adrianP today.


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