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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:02 pm 
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Another vote for African Pipit


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:21 pm 
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Hi again :D ,

Theses are my last pipits I need some help with please, I first thought they were all African and the last one Buffy, but then the coloration/head patterns etc. of some started confusing me again :tongue: .....what do you think?

Still Kimberley area May this year;

Pipit 1 (African?)
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Pipit 2 (African?)
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Pipit 3 (African with broken leg?)
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Pipit 4 (African?)
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Pipit 5 (African?)
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Pipit 6 (African juv.?)
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Maurice

You seem to enjoy tormenting us with all these LBJ's.

I'd say for 1-6 you are right. These are African pipit.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Maurice,
The first lot seems to be African Pipit yes.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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adrianp wrote:
Hi Maurice

You seem to enjoy tormenting us with all these LBJ's.


Thank you once again adrianp for your reply, I'm very sorry for that, I'm just trying to sort everything out :mrgreen: . The help on this forum is much appreciated!!! :thumbs_up:

Lizet Grobbelaar wrote:
Maurice,
The first lot seems to be African Pipit yes.
Regards
Lizet


Thank you Lizet.

The first 6 pipets went into the African pipit folder, thanks to you and Adrianp.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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This one really has me stumped :wall: To me it looks most like a fawncoloured lark — BUT I saw it at Strandfontein in Cape Town (on 6 May 2012), which is well out of range for that :hmz:

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African pipit

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks, JvR, I should have thought of that :wall:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Arks, the bill shape of pipits and larks are very different. Your bird shows a pointy narrow bill immediately ruling out the lark family.

Larks have a far more robust bill.

Here are some photos of a Fawn-coloured Lark for comparison.

http://www.laine-dirk.co.za/photos/497/497.html

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks for that tip, WTM. :thumbs_up: I should have realised that by now, but methinks I'm a slow learner ... and I sometimes have a hard time seeing the obvious! :roll: :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks all - I am learning a lot from these discussions! It's always good to not just get a name, but also the reasoning behind it!

Here's another one... Was hopping around the edges of Leeupan (Kruger).

First thought was African Pipit, but it just seemed more "spotted" that the other African Pipits I have seen - and facial marking is not quite as pronounced. Could this be a Bushveld Pipit?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Johannes, looks like a good old African Pipit.

African Pipits come in a wide variety and depending on the moulting process.

Here is an example of Bushveld Pipit.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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It is only a pleasure Johannes

You already had the right ID the first time round with African Pipit.

Once again, the most abundant pipit found in the entire Southern Africa not just KNP :lol:

But ja, Bushveld Pipit is a tricky one to find, also not that common in KNP, and generally more, well bush loving birds, prefering to bounce around in tree's and perched on top of bushes.

African pipit is a ground dwelling type pipit with a very upright stance as you can see in all your photos.

General rule of thumb is, always ask yourself, why is it not an African Pipit, when it comes to ID'ing a Pipit. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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I'd have to say you were correct the first time round, with African Pipit. They can be a bit variable depending on where in SA they come from, the time of moult and the adult vs juvenile. I think this is a juvenile. Bushveld pipit is a lot smaller and tends to spend more time in the trees than on the ground.


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