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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:30 pm 
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Oh, I forgot to add that according to the Faan Meintjies nature reserve bird list the following larks occur there:
Eastern Clapper lark, Melodious lark, Monotonous lark, Karoo lark, Red lark, Sabota lark, Fawn-coloured lark, Large billed lark, Rufous-naped lark, Red-capped lark, Short clawed lark, Cape long-billed lark, Pink billed lark, Sclater's lark, Stark's lark, Spike-heeled lark. A bevy of suspects. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi mel123, the first one looks like a Rufous-naped Lark, and your second one is either an Eastern Clapper Lark or Flappet Lark, hard to tell from those 2 pictures.
I think that bird list for Faan Meintjies you have is quite off, because it's almost impossible to get Karoo, Red, Large-billed, Cape Long-billed, Sclater's and Stark's Larks up there. Those Larks you only really get in the Cape Provinces, and to my knowledge none of them have been seen anywhere close to the North West.

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Thank you MattAxel, much appreciated! :gflower:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Took this in Kruger on the H7 between Orpen and Satara

My guess is Rufous-winged Cisticola, but these lbj's confuse the $%*&^$# out of me!

The light was terrible, and I had to brighten up the shadows some to reveal detail and colors on the wings.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Johannes

Cisticola's are really difficult to ID out in the field, even harder on an image alone. Best way to ID them is by call, but I would say this looks like a Rattling Cisticola which is by far the most abundant Cisticola in the KNP and especially around Satara.

Rufous Winged Cisticola, which I haven't even seen yet, is not a very common bird in KNP and the habitat around Satara also doesn't really support them. I don't have a field gudie with me, but from what I can remember they enjoy marshy, wetland area's.

Rattling Cisticola's are very much bushveld birds which thrives in the habitat around Satara.

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Rattling Cisticola. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Agreed, it's a Rattling Cisticola. I would say the only 2 long-tailed Cisticolas you would really find in the habitat around Satara are Rattling and Croaking, and this bird's bill is too small for Croaking.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks all - I am learning a lot from these discussions! It's always good to not just get a name, but also the reasoning behind it!

Here's another one... Was hopping around the edges of Leeupan (Kruger).

First thought was African Pipit, but it just seemed more "spotted" that the other African Pipits I have seen - and facial marking is not quite as pronounced. Could this be a Bushveld Pipit?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Johannes, looks like a good old African Pipit.

African Pipits come in a wide variety and depending on the moulting process.

Here is an example of Bushveld Pipit.

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It is only a pleasure Johannes

You already had the right ID the first time round with African Pipit.

Once again, the most abundant pipit found in the entire Southern Africa not just KNP :lol:

But ja, Bushveld Pipit is a tricky one to find, also not that common in KNP, and generally more, well bush loving birds, prefering to bounce around in tree's and perched on top of bushes.

African pipit is a ground dwelling type pipit with a very upright stance as you can see in all your photos.

General rule of thumb is, always ask yourself, why is it not an African Pipit, when it comes to ID'ing a Pipit. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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I'd have to say you were correct the first time round, with African Pipit. They can be a bit variable depending on where in SA they come from, the time of moult and the adult vs juvenile. I think this is a juvenile. Bushveld pipit is a lot smaller and tends to spend more time in the trees than on the ground.


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Well there you have it, three almost identical answers posted simultaneously!


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks to all - you guys are on a roll!!!

I might just have to find some more of my Unidentified birds for you all!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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This one was seen in Kruger in the Letaba area.

The ultimate lbj!!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Most probable candidate would be Rattling Cisticola

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