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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:19 pm 
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Good Day everyone and a happy new Year!

I have a lark I picked up in the serringfeld last week and I'm 90% sure on the ID, however I would appreciate a confirmation. Thanks for the help. I believe it to be a melodious Lark, which I saw on one of the dirt roads out on the serringfeld loops near Roodeplaat dam.

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The buffy belly and white supercillium, added with the colour lets me think this is not a monotonous lark!

Hi Ferdelance, I'm afraid but this is not a Melodious Lark. They have a very different bill shape (more conical). Also, Melodious Lark has a more prominent supercillium and white outer tail feathers which are normally visible even on a perched bird such as this.

Seeing as this bird was photographed in the Seringveld, one has to consider Fawn-coloured Lark as well but that would have had a paler belly, neater markings on the breast and also a slightly smaller bill.

I'd rather suggest that this bird is a text book Rufous-naped Lark.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 7:35 pm 
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Very interesting. Thanks deefstes! :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thank you for the detailed reply Deefstes. I just never had such a good look at rufous naped Lark! But either way it still is a photographic lifer for me then! It's interesting that you mention that the melodious lark has white outer tail feathers! None of my bird books mentions this...... nice! :cry:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Ferdelance wrote:
It's interesting that you mention that the melodious lark has white outer tail feathers! None of my bird books mentions this...... nice! :cry:

Jeepers, and that's one of the most prominent features of the bird. There are very few Larks that sport white outer tail feathers so it is a very useful feature no less.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Not to lark on about this but jee wiz hey this is interesting! I did some reading up and I can only find a reference to this in the big roberts which states, and I qoute:" outer webs of outer rectrices white." None of my field guides have anything on this feature! Not my photographic field guide nor my sasol second edition... No wonder we all battle with LBJ's! Deefstes did you know this fact from sources or you just talking from experience?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Ferdelance wrote:
Not to lark on about this but jee wiz hey this is interesting! I did some reading up and I can only find a reference to this in the big roberts which states, and I qoute:" outer webs of outer rectrices white." None of my field guides have anything on this feature! Not my photographic field guide nor my sasol second edition... No wonder we all battle with LBJ's! Deefstes did you know this fact from sources or you just talking from experience?


That is very interesting indeed. I just had a look at some of my reference books as well and only Roberts VII (as well as Roberts VII multimedia but not Roberts VII field guide) mentions the white outer tail feathers. All of them illustrate it though but I'm rather shocked that it is not mentioned in the text.

I know this from experience but I'm pretty sure I will have read it somewhere as well. But trust me, when you see a Melodious Lark displaying, the very first thing that will catch your eye is the white outer tail feathers. I'm taking a visiting UK birder out birding on 22 Jan and we will probably target the Melodious Lark amongst others. There are two seats available in the car if you're interested in tagging along.

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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:00 pm 
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Yesterday I got tired of the office and difficult clients and everything else, and grabbed my camera, binoculars and bird books and headed off for a quick trip to the Faan Meintjies nature reserve.

Since I am still a novice birder, I would appreciate it if you guys can help check my Pipit and Lark ID's? I enjoy the challenge, but they are difficult. Still lots to learn, which is why I'm practicing hard. :D

This bird was posing beautifully. I'm relatively confident in ID'ing it as a rufous-naped lark, but please confirm?

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Thank you so much for your help! :k


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 10:03 pm 
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Mel123, I think you are spot on with your ID's.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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You're definitely right with Rufous-naped Lark.


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You can repeat MattAxel's reply verbatim as my view... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Thanks everybody - I appreciate it a lot! :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Help needed with this lark seen near Klerksdorp, please? I think its possibly a fawn-coloured lark, but I would like to have somebody more familiar with these confirm?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Oh, I forgot to add that according to the Faan Meintjies nature reserve bird list the following larks occur there:
Eastern Clapper lark, Melodious lark, Monotonous lark, Karoo lark, Red lark, Sabota lark, Fawn-coloured lark, Large billed lark, Rufous-naped lark, Red-capped lark, Short clawed lark, Cape long-billed lark, Pink billed lark, Sclater's lark, Stark's lark, Spike-heeled lark. A bevy of suspects. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi mel123, this one looks like a Rufous-naped Lark.

I think that bird list for Faan Meintjies you have is quite off, because it's almost impossible to get Karoo, Red, Large-billed, Cape Long-billed, Sclater's and Stark's Larks up there. Those Larks you only really get in the Cape Provinces, and to my knowledge none of them have been seen anywhere close to the North West.


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Thank you MattAxel, much appreciated! :gflower:


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