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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Arks

On the S3, heading from Numbi gate to Skuks. Seen on the 9th August this year. Time was just past 11:00 in the morning.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Well Noel

I think you are spot on with your ID :thumbs_up:

Always nice to put the juveniles in their place.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Can anyone help with a possible ID for this raptor? It was very far away, so I know it's a long shot :wink: as these images are very cropped. Seen at WCNP on 24 May 2012.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hell Arks.. I am not going to lie to you, there isn't much too go on here. Very difficult to give a correct ID but I will take a guess in saying Juvenile Jackal Buzzard. I can't think of any other brown raptors present there that time of year.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Juveniles still not in place :D
Thanks Adrianp. Could'nt really be anything else-too big for the other candidates.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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DotDan wrote:
Hell Arks.. I am not going to lie to you, there isn't much too go on here. Very difficult to give a correct ID but I will take a guess in saying Juvenile Jackal Buzzard. I can't think of any other brown raptors present there that time of year.

Thanks, DD. I've never seen a jackal buzzard in WCNP (altho there are plenty around Darling! :wink: ), so hadn't thought of that .... :wall: And I know that the pix show very little, even to hazzard a guess!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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A 'few' from southern KTP early March 12. At least I know the Martial Eagle which we saw a lot (incl Juveniles), but these brown ones :doh:

1) Guessing Juv. Goshawk. Was big-ish so if Goshawk I guess Southern Pale Chanting. Steppe Buzzard also crossed my mind. The only photo I took.
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2) (below-left) A somewhat smaller raptor. Thought maybe juv. Gabor Goshawk, but underside tail seem to be light brown and not barred :hmz:
3) (below-right) different bird seems like Tawny Eagle but happy to be corrected.
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4) This cute fluffy thing doesn't really match anything I can think of
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5) Wing-shape points me in the direction of a Kestrel, if so then Greater Kestrel seems to match colours an brown barred tail the best :?
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6) Another Tawny Eagle or is it :roll: Was sitting on the grass next to the road near sunset together with the below.
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7) Lost again but as mentioned above together with #6
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A lot I know but hope someone in the know has a bit of time on their hands. Many thanks for any help.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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You are correct with the pale chanting goshawk and the tawny eagles.

The cute fluffy thing #4 is a greater kestral.

Its #2 that has me the most puzzled :hmz:
I need to think a bit more. It is definitely a juvenile of something. Do you have any other pictures of it?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Adrian, much appreciated :D

adrianp wrote:
Its #2 that has me the most puzzled :hmz:
I need to think a bit more. It is definitely a juvenile of something. Do you have any other pictures of it?

Afraid not, only other pic I have is pretty much identical and quality-wise I doesn't really help to make it bigger.

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The cute fluffy thing #4 is a greater kestral.

Nice, agree the flying one #5 is that as well?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I'd say nr. 2 is a juvenile Steppe Buzzard.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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The cute fluffy thing #4 is a greater kestral.

Nice, agree the flying one #5 is that as well?

Regards, Michael


Indeed #5 is also a greater kestrel - juvenile (dark eye), while the pale eye of #4 points to an adult greater kestrel.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Roan wrote:
I'd say nr. 2 is a juvenile Steppe Buzzard.


That would be my vote too...


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Dabchick wrote:
That would be my vote too...

Thanks all!!! Off the bush for a long weekend, so who knows maybe more next week.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Good Evening Great Dane.

Here's my 2 cents worth towards your Raptors:
1. Defiantly Juv SPCG. Light eye and the starting of the orange cere. Streaking on Chest and no feathers on Tarsi.
2. Juv Steppe Buzzard. Looks like it although the streaked chest is a first for me. The dull cere and featherless Leggings, combined with dark eye point to this.
3. Tawny Eagle. I think this is straight forward.
4. The cute fluffy thing is a Greater Kestrel. Streaking on head and yellow eye with general tawny appearance.
5. Hmmm Possibly Sub-Adult or Juv Greater Kestrel.
6. In the brown Eagle complex one can generally I.D the tawny's by a streaked neck, head and breast. I must say I've only seen this so pronounced once and that was the KNP. Nice one. The only difference to 7 is probably that 7 is a sub adult bird. I wanted to make it a Juv Verraux Eagle but that is dreaming a bit...... :wall:

Hope that helps somewhat....

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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deefstes wrote:
MichaelWildtuin wrote:
Hi, I saw this bird near Shingwedzi. Is it possible to identify this bird?


I'll give you a hint; It's not an Osprey... :wink:


Haha thanks Deefstes.


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