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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 8:54 pm 
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I would appreciate any help in IDing these birds.

Taken in Addo between 27 April and 1 May 2012.

A Steppe Buzzard?
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This may be the same bird
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Tue May 15, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Hi Rookie.

These 2 are indeed Steppe Buzzards. I think it's the slight white mark or tip at the top of the wing that gives these guys away :)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I'm not sure about the Steppe Buzzards, as it is quite late in the year, and most would have migrated. Have you considered juvenile Jackal buzzard for the more stocky brown raptors? The last one is probably an accipitor of sorts.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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We were there at the same time Rookie.

I saw a bird that looked just like your number 4. It was in the air and had black wingtips. The underwing matched exactly to the Steppe buzzard in the book.

I was surprised that it hadn't yet gapped it up north, then realized it was a bit light and probabaly a juvenile, that was not yet ready to breed and liked it down south!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Rookie these two I tend to agree with adrianp that they are juv Jackal Buzzards. Note the yellow eyes which point towards them being juv birds, and due to the more solid brown colouring of them, and especially the rufous colouring of the 1st one, I would go with Jackal Buzzards.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Our buzzard.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yours also look more like Jackal Buzzards to me BB. Here are a few differences that I've observed in the field:

Steppe Buzzards usually show a much more prominent dark trailing edge to the wings than this.

Steppe Buzzards also usually don't have completely white secondaries like these birds do. They usually have some brown markings on their secondaries.

Also the underwing coverts look too uniformly marked to be Steppe Buzzard.

The rufous colouring of these birds also points towards Jackal Buzzard.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I agree with Mattaxel that it is a Jackal buzzard. I see them every day where I live (just moved to the garden route), and what I have noticed, is that the general shape and impression, is that a jackal buzzard has much broader wings than a Steppe or forest buzzard, and in flight, almost gives the impression of a bateleur, with broad wings and a short tail. Once you get used to these subtle differences in shape, it does not matter what colour the bird is, age or moult, the ID is more clear. I think it more difficult to sort out the steppes from the forest buzzards here, where both are found in summer.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks guys. :thumbs_up:

These youngsters gave us the run-around and that would explain their presence in very late April.

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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Next up are these two buzzards, seen in Cape Town last month, struggling with ID (Jackal/Steppe/or....), who can help?

Thank you!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Maurice

These two are juvenile Jackal Buzzards.

As far as the buzzards are concerned. All three of your options will occur in and around Cape town, however, you can eliminate steppe from the mix, because it is a summer migrant and would have left a few months ago. Also steppes (except a rare(ish) all brown form) have a white band accross the chest. Forest buzzard is generally all white on the chest with brown teardrop blotches. Leaving you with Jackal buzzard.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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adrianp wrote:
Hi Maurice

Agree, young lanner falcon seem right for the first one :thumbs_up: , and the other two are juvenile Jackal Buzzard.

As far as the buzzards are concerned. All three of your options will occur in and around Cape town, however, you can eliminate steppe from the mix, because it is a summer migrant and would have left a few months ago. Also steppes (except a rare(ish) all brown form) have a white band accross the chest. Forest buzzard is generally all white on the chest with brown teardrop blotches. Leaving you with Jackal buzzard.



Thank you again Adrianp!
The summer migrant thing is something I take with a little caution since I've seen a couple of birds in SA in May that were supposed to have left already (specially some waders, Ruff, Curlew- & Terek sandpiper etc). But don't doubt about these birds being juv. Jackal buzzards. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Can anyone help with a possible ID for this raptor? It was very far away, so I know it's a long shot :wink: as these images are very cropped. Seen at WCNP on 24 May 2012.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hell Arks.. I am not going to lie to you, there isn't much too go on here. Very difficult to give a correct ID but I will take a guess in saying Juvenile Jackal Buzzard. I can't think of any other brown raptors present there that time of year.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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DotDan wrote:
Hell Arks.. I am not going to lie to you, there isn't much too go on here. Very difficult to give a correct ID but I will take a guess in saying Juvenile Jackal Buzzard. I can't think of any other brown raptors present there that time of year.

Thanks, DD. I've never seen a jackal buzzard in WCNP (altho there are plenty around Darling! :wink: ), so hadn't thought of that .... :wall: And I know that the pix show very little, even to hazzard a guess!

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