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Re: kids in kruger

Unread postby Dabchick » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:44 pm

Always the kids and malaria debate! My friend stayed away from KNP since she got pregnant until now... the kid is 4 years old. We're talking serious withdrawal symptoms here! :lol: So I convinced her to call the pediatrician for advice... his words: "The experience is too valuable to the child to not take her!" and "Take the child, take some sensible precautions, and I'll prescribe save prophylaxis". Needless to say, the trip is booked...


Of course, if everyone did what Wildtuinman advises, childfree me could have looked forward to blissfully childfree holidays as well :hmz: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :tongue:


Now, back to the original question. While I love the northern parts of Kruger, the picnic spots are few and far in between, the vegetation monotonous, and the best part of the wildlife is the bird life! So, I suggest you stay south, where there are more animals, more places for pitstops, and larger, more child-friendly camps. It is probably also a good thing that you are not allowed get out of the car on the southern bridges like on most of the northern bridges... so less chance for the child to get him/herself into trouble.... Allow play and running time at camps and picnic spots, play games with the kids, such as: "first one to spot a ....., gets a .....", and with really young kids (<5 or 6 yrs), I'd say, take a portable DVD player along so that they can watch their favourite cartoons in the evenings (only inside the bungalows! - we don't want the mozzies to get to them or the neighbours to complain...), so that the parents can get some rest too :tongue: -- board games work well for older kids. (O yes, and close the windows when your at a predator or baboon sighting... young children loose in the back of a car are very attractive prey...)

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Re: kids in kruger

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:33 am

I have cancelled one holiday in Kruger and that was due to pregnancy.

I do understand Wildtuinman's concern, but September is a low risk month and the Park is very dry.

I think Pretorius Kop is one of the lowest risk camps, if I remember correctly. It also has a lovely pool with lots of place to run for little people.

When my children were very young, the biggest problem we had was getting them to take the meds. It was bitter, horrible and often came straight back up. Because of the change in maleria sensitivity, other meds are now given. In those days it was Cloroquin.

Doxy tabs, as we call them, do have side effects. Never to be taken on an empty stomach and to be cautious about the sun. They do increase sun sensitivity.

Swimming pools are essential. Breaking for swims was always an important part of the day. Even September can bring sweltering hot days.

Vitamin B, thiamine has been shown to be an effective repellant and it also seems to reduce the intensity of the illness, if infected. It is worth giving some extra.

Sweat attracts mozzies, so again, swims and cool baths will help.
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Re: kids in kruger

Unread postby wildtuinman » Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:14 am

MM, Pretoriuskop might be saved by altitude, but I am always worried about Pretoriuskop and Punda Maria because of their higher rainfall which creates suitable breeding habitats for mosquitoes.

One of the high risk places to get bitten are in communal bathrooms. It is a magnificent hiding place for mosquitoes and it is also the place where you are at your most vulnerable, without clothes and without mosquito repellant.
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Re: kids in kruger

Unread postby mattmillielibby » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:55 am

I have two children, our first went to kruger at 4 months old and has been 3 times since, and our second went last year for the first time at 6 months with our oldest having just turned 2.
When we returned home our oldest had suspected malaria...and although it turned out after tests that it was not, it was a very scary time...however we are returning again in November :)
Don't be put off. Just make sure you take the correct precautions, stop at picnic spots to let them stretch their legs, get them their own binos, map, books etc, get some snap cards and get them to chhose the card of the animal they can see etc...just make it fun and enjoy the amazing experience with your kids!
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Re: kids in kruger

Unread postby threedogs » Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:17 pm

Doxycycline IS prescribed as a chemoprophylaxis for malaria prevention.

See here: http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/yellowbook/2012/chapter-3-infectious-diseases-related-to-travel/malaria.htm
or: http://www.traveldoctor.co.uk/tables.htm
or:http://www.malariasite.com/malaria/Prophylaxis.htm

Use of other types of antibiotics not recognised as a preventative measure against malaria is not advised. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Are we being stupid ?

Unread postby wildtuinman » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:07 pm

There are indeed very brave parents in this country.

For me personally, not almost worth the risk to be selfish to go on a Kruger holiday and risk losing my most precious belonging. Never in a million years.

MALARIA kills more children in Africa than anything else!

Furthermore. The difference between getting in to a car and going to a mall and having to go to Kruger is plain and simple. You do not have to go to Kruger. Yes, unfortunately you have to drive and go out and buy food and other necessities. So the comparisons some are making here are not in the least valid.

Will you dress your child in a bulletproof vest and send him/her out to go pat a lion? Now why on earth would you introduce an under 5 year old to the most deadliest decease EVER in Africa? Doesn't make any sense.

Waiting for 5 years for your child to be old enough to visit Kruger is a very small price to pay before having to bury a young child.

I guess in having lost my mom, two brothers and now having a very ill dad just taught me to guard the life of a loved one as best as possible. You never know what you missing before it is too late.

Never ever think or say that it won't happen to you.

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Re: Are we being stupid ?

Unread postby wildtuinman » Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:27 pm

According to the National Institute of Communicable Diseases, 3 470 cases have been reported in South Africa in the 2011 malaria season.

Sixty-one percent were reported in Limpopo, 27% in Mpumalanga and the rest in KwaZulu-Natal.
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Re: Are we being stupid ?

Unread postby Guzz » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:14 pm

wildtuinman,

I'm not arguing your statistics, or the sources you've obtained them from. I think this argument has gone in circles too many times to labour on any further.

I commented on this topic to wish gavinp well, as he's made a decision to follow his gut and push on. I was in the same predicament last year and made the same decision. Never looked back! I think it's fantastic! Well done gavinp!

I didn't at all say it "won't happen to me", but I trust it won't happen to me, and similarly trust it won't happen to him, or anyone else for that matter.

Best wishes to your ill dad. I trust all will go well.

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Any children activities in camps?

Unread postby wilddog.prg » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:46 pm

Hi to all wildlife lovers..
As I am travelling with my 5 1/2 year old son to Kruger for 3 weeks, I would like to know whether there are some children playgrounds or any interesting activities in any camps to liven up long stay in park for a child?
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Re: Any children activities in camps?

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:52 pm

Hi Wilddog :D

Some camps are more child friendly than others.

All of the big camps have swimming pools. This is welcome for children, old and young, especially in the summer heat.

Skukuza and Satara day centres have lovely play areas for children where they can stretch their legs. I find Skukuza probably the most child friendly camp. Pretorius Kop also has a wonderful swimmng pool area for big and small children with lots of shade.
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Re: Any children activities in camps?

Unread postby Butterbee » Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:38 pm

Hi!

The shops also have a big selection of books, toys and games for kids. So you could buy your son his own kiddies book about kruger and he can look up the animals you see.
Teaching kids about the bush and wildlife is so much fun!

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Re: Any children activities in camps?

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:24 pm

I found a fun thing to do was to make an album. After a drive we would go and see if we could find any post cards of the animals seen and stick them in with the names of the different animals.
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Re: Any children activities in camps?

Unread postby Son godin » Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:17 pm

Hi wilddog.prg,
Most of the camps you have booked at have a swimming pool.
At Berg en Dal you will find the pool to be child friendly and certain areas not to deep for them to play him. What I liked about Berg en Dal is the walking trail around the camp tha'ts on the inside of the fence.
There are a lot of interactive display for the kids to look at and you will find a small jungle gym near reception for the children to play on.
Just reminder do not let them walk on their own or after dark.
A leopard have been seen frequently near the fence.

Letaba is also great for kids and during holiday they have treasure hunts and other activities.
The elephant museum is a must to visit.
The school holiday is from 29 Sept - 7 October so you might be at that time at Letaba.

Punda Maria does not have too many activities, but there is a walking trail and swimming plus bird hide.
My child visited the hides from a young age and maybe not always quiet, but often not as loud as some adults.
The camps are not child friendly and a snake might be hiding in a tree or bush, therefore when they want to go for a walk always go along.

My child is again a curio freak and we started off buying a soft animal toy during each visit resulting in a zoo of animals at home.
There is a Kruger Passport you can buy (saw it at Afsaal) where you mark off the camps you have visited and if not wrong you can add other info like sightings.
The five year old might be a bit young for it, but get one for yourself.
We found a lovely activity book for kids in Kgalagadi and I am sure you will find something similar in Kruger.

Also try to planning visits to picnic areas where possible so that you can get out of the car more often and even hides are nice places to stop to show kids whats happening around them well staying in one place and not driving around.

Great stops are Pafuri, Babalala and Kaniedood hide far north, Shipandani and Mooiplaas near Mopani, etc.

Buy a Kruger map when you arrive and you will know where to find all these spots and more.
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New parents in the Kruger

Unread postby schooms » Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:12 am

Hi guys,

Let me state very quickly that this isn't a topic to moan about kids or have a "go" about children in the KNP. This is a topic to help me learn as to when is the best time to take a child, what age is the best age and what camps are the best to stay in the KNP.

I have been going to the Kruger since before I can remember and go religiously 3times a year, but my wife and I are now expecting our first child (which ironically was conceived in the park :redface: ) and this now opens a whole new experience for us. We are really excited to see the KNP through her eyes as she will create a whole new world for us. We realize that this wont happen when she is first born but over time.

But since my wife and I are new to this I really would appreciate constructive and informative comments from parents on the forum who have had experience with this and can educate a father-to-be with their wisdom.
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Re: New parents in the Kruger

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:19 am

Schooms, how wonderful :D congratulations.

You are going to get all kinds of advice. My concern would be maleria. I would sterr clear of high malaria seasons until you can take the proper precautions for the little one.

When my children were very young, Skuks was probably our favourite camp. Lets see what other mites say.
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