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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:38 pm 
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sandeep,
The easiest way to exclude Euro Hobby with these dark-backed falcons is to look at the wing tips. Hobbies have a very long wingspan and normally when they are perched the wings are as long or even longer than the tail.
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On your photo you can see the wings stop way before the tail tip.

Young Lanner and Peregrines are difficult but with such an amount of rufous on the nape this will rather be a Lanner than Peregrine. Young Peregrines can also show a bit of pale on the back and front head but this individual's whole hind head is already turning rufous, as it should later in the adult bird.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Lizet. I think I repeat this sentiment, but this forum is brilliant and so informative. :thumbs_up:


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It is an Euroasian hobby???

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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and why not a Lanner :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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anne-marie wrote:
and why not a Lanner :hmz:


Probably because the OP has seen a lanner before, but a hobby would be a lifer :D

Seriously, a Eurasian Hobby would have rufous on the leggings. I agree, its a lanner.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Okay Anne-Mare and Son godin,

I agree :redface: - Although never saw one in Kruger before and so in this case at least a first for us. :thumbs_up:


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Okay Anne-Mare and Son godin,

I agree :redface: - Although never saw one in Kruger before and so in this case at least a first for us. :thumbs_up:


Son godin? :shock: :big_eyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Looks like the move to the garden route has done wonders... :twisted:

Lanners are not uncommon in Kruger... they should probably seen as frequently as the Eurasian hobby.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Son godin? :shock: :big_eyes: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I had to look that up :)


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Please help, seen in Kgalagadi during April

Peregrine Falcon??
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Hi Tobieo
the pic seems to be a juvenile Lanner Falcon (Peregrine's don`t occur in KTP).

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Roan but my Sasol birdbook says It does occur in KTP (in fact almost the total SA) must be mistake


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:big_eyes: Sorry CW used another book (Oberprieler & Cillie) which shows it doesn't occur in that area. SASOL however states that it does. :hmz:
Still, it doesn't look like a Peregrine to me. :?

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Lots of Juv Lanner in the KTP at the moment. We spotted 4 individuals just around one waterhole close to Nossob. Another clue is the pale head were Peregrine has an all dark head...and pinkish wash to the breast.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi All,

Please forgive my ignorance, but it flew past me several times at HIGH speed, so struggled to ID it in first place, is it a Lanner Falcon, or Peregrine Falcon?? Taken at Cibutje Quap in Kgalagadi about a month ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I would say that you have photographed a juvenile lanner falcon IN FLIGHT!!!

Well done :dance:


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