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Karoo: Snake ID

Unread postby fernmargaret » Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:49 pm

We have just spent a night at the park, which we do every time we travel to Cape Town. It is one of our favourite places, and one of the best run Sanpark!!
While driving from the gate to the camp, we saw a most unusual snake. This was at about 19h00. It was lying on the tar road, was about a metre long, very thick, (width of a man's arm) pale gold belly, but with markings on top, spots, speckles. There was no distinct neck and it had a small head, so not an adder. It moved very strangely, with a ripple effect.
I cannot ID this at all, from all my sources. Perhaps someone there can help?

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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby RonnieL » Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:13 pm

Hi,
From your description and the snake's behaviour it's a Puff Adder, and a large one at that.
I have a photo of one that I will post later.
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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby RonnieL » Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:05 pm

Hi fernmagaret,
Here are two of my photos of a Puff Adder.
Does this look like the snake you saw?

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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby fernmargaret » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:51 pm

Hi. The head was not distinct from the body, and not adder shaped. Also, it was very pale, with spotty marhings rahter than the clear diamonds of a puffy. "Walked' like a centipede!! I'm flummoxed....

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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby RonnieL » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:58 pm

Hi fernmargaret,

Did you take a photo of it and can you post it here?

Thank you.
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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby Guide24 » Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:30 am

I had a look and the description matches the colouration of the snake and it can grow up to 1m in length but could find no literature about the thickness. The pictures above show the 2 different colouratuion found in the Western Cape. This is the Herald Snake or Red-lipped Snake

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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby RonnieL » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:06 am

Hi fernmagaret,

I showed and discussed your post at length yesterday with the owner of the Addo Raptor and Reptile Center.
After studying your post he is also of the opinion that the snake you saw is most likely to be a puff adder.
He says the size and behavior you described is a typical of a puff adder while the markings vary greatly in puff adders.
You can contact him via his website http://www.addoraptorreptile.com/
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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:46 am

This has been an interesting post. It had me looking through my reptile book for ages. I kept coming back to puff adder. I also had some rather bad, bad snake nightmares :big_eyes:
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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby Addo Elephant » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:18 pm

Hi fernmargaret,
The movement you describe sounds excatly like a puffadder - it is a very strange-looking movement compared to other snakes - so I'm sure that's what you saw.
Colouration can vary slightly in different areas.
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Re: Snake ID at Karoo National Park

Unread postby RichardJ » Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:24 pm

J.Botha wrote:The first confirmed sighting of the Fisk's house snake in Karoo National Park :dance:

The snake was spotted on a night drive during April but Johan Marais confirmed it a couple of days ago that this is the Fisk's House snake.


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perhaps this guy?


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