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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
Unread postPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:48 pm 
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Some rangers were allowed to have dogs as pets, I've read it in the memoirs of Bruce Brydon. Don't know if it is still so... :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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As far as I know, rangers can have dogs under strict conditions. I remember when the rangers were looking for Duke's tusks they were accompanied by a little Jack Russel.

A stray and lost dog wandered into Croc Bridge camp on my last visit. The staff immediately commented that this was not the ranger's dog. Sometimes you can hear them bark. Kobie Kruger also talks with affection of their dogs in Kruger. In Wolhuter's time there were often packs of close to 30 dogs. He would confiscate dogs from poachers and keep the best for his own purposes.

Dogs can be very effective in many instances. Harry Wolhuter's life was saved by the efforts of his plucky little dog while he was bleeding up a tree.

What saddens me here is the brazeness of the poachers. It does seem from Elsa's post that there is little fear of getting caught.

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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Stray dogs could carry distemper and rabies which would be a disaster for any member of the canine family as well as many other species, and should be destroyed on sight. The brain of such an animal was in the past sent to the Veterinary Dept for analysis.

This appears to be another poaching incident!

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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Not a unlikely sighting, the poacher defintly use canine friends to help.....

Very shocking indeed!

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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Very worrying indeed. In other parks (not necessarily SANParks) whole packs of wild dog have been wiped out by distemper/rabies, presumably brought in by "feral" dogs. The rules banning visitors' pets are there for a very good reason. Any "feral" dogs (or cats) seen in the Park should be destroyed on sight (sad as it might be).

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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I am feeling pretty helpless about this but surely it has to be formally reported and action taken if the staff in Punda have not acted on it.
If they have an update would be great.


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A question to the experts. What are the chances of these feral dogs breeding with wild dogs?

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This saddens me so much. They have to fix this problem! What also annoys me is that the poachers seem so arrogant that they wont get caught... :wall: :wall: :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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Rangers do have dogs which i am sure will have to be fully and frequently innoculated against all the canine diseases. What did surprise me was that when my SO spoke to the guide later in camp, he said he was only going to report the incident to the ranger the next morning at 9am.

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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Elsa,

There is a list of phone numbers where the rangers can be contacted directly.

For something this serious I don't think the section ranger would mind a late night call.

Here is the list of numbers.

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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I am certain these are dogs used for poaching.

We have a house on a reserve near Hoedspruit and we are asked to alert the wardens when we hear dogs barking or see any signs of dogs on the property: just as foxes are used for hunting the dogs are used in packs to help bring down animals.
Dog packs are used a great deal in KZN as well.

My own feeling is that the dogs should be shot on sight, and the owners fined if they come seeking their dogs.

No incident of poaching, in whatever form, should be allowed.

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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I am certain these are dogs used for poaching.
My own feeling is that the dogs should be shot on sight, and the owners fined if they come seeking their dogs


Or the Owners brains sent to Onderstepoort to see if they have Rabies. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Feral dogs sighted on the Mahonie Loop
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Thanks Dr Phil. my feeling was that it was happening so often, the guide clearly felt or had even possibly been insructed to only report it in office hours? if one looks at the Kruger map you will see where the one part of the Mahonie loop runs very close to the border and this is where we saw the poachers.

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The presence of feral dogs does not necessarily mean that poachers are involved. Owners of these animals often hail from impoverished communities who are unable to look after the animals. They become wild in order to survive and eventually leave their owners. Interesting is that the feral dogs eventually resemble the Australian Dingo. Someone mentioned that if you free all the domesticated dogs and let them breed at will, the ones that will survive will look like a Dingo.

If one travels through Africa, and for that matter throuhgout the world, the only dogs that survived in the wild are the ones that look like a dingo, or feral dog as seen in Kruger. A Maltese poodle will definately not make it on its own, nor will a Boston terrier. Natural selection dictates what type of dog will make it, and in the end , it will be a dog similar to the feral dog or Dingo.

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