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 Post subject: Re: Kruger is flooding
Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Dear All,

Having been closely in contact with the Kruger team and having been involved in / effected by the 2000 floods of 7 and 24 February 2000, there are a couple of interesting characteristics of the two disasters:
1. 2000 floods generally far more severe especially the 7 February one which hit the southern portion very hard.
2. I would say that this 18 January 2012 flood was worse than the 24 February 2000 one which hit the north and central areas quite hard.
3. My take on bridge damage and reports is that 2012 flood resulted in higher levels (than possibly ever recorded before) in following rivers:
3.1 Nwaswitsontso (catchment in Manyeleti area west of Orpen) was incredibly high, completely engulfing Tshokwane and reaching higher levels in Talamati than in 2000.
3.2 Timbavati (catchment near Klaserie and theefore) severely affected by deluge that hit Hoedspruit and surroundings and also reached very high levels in the Park, flooding the tar road between Orpen and Satara and engulfing the entire Tamboti Camp (40 tents) which has been extensively damaged.
3.3 Olifants (due to Blyde, Timbavati, Selati and other swollen tributaries) also reached highest levels recorded (in my view in Park history, but stand to be corrected) for the first time ever flooding the high level bridge on the tar road between Satara and Letaba. Extensive damage to Balule.
3.4 Nwaswitshaka (catchment Pretoriuskop and south thereof) also reached higher levels than in 2000 and caused extensive damage to high level bridge on road between Kruger Gate and Skukuza.
3.5 There could be others that I am not aware of and certainly those that come to mind would be Nhlanganini (near Letaba), Sand (south), Biyamiti (south) and others.
4. Rivers that did not reach 2000 flood levels are, Sabie, Crocodile, Letaba and of course those that did not come down in flood in north such as Shingwedzi, Luvhuvhu and Limpopo.

Thanks to all for contributing!

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 Post subject: Re: Kruger is flooding
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Joep Stevens wrote:
Dear All,

It is with a level of sadness that I inform you that Balule was quite extensively damaged by the 18 January 2012 flood as the Olifants (to my best knowledge) reached record levels not previously recorded (in history of the park). Even the old historic huts have been damaged with doors washed away. Kitchen and ablutions also damaged extensively and then fence of course. Will require careful thinking and planning to restore to former glory!

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 Post subject: Re: Kruger is flooding
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Joep Stevens wrote:
Dear All,

Due to 18 January 2012 floods, Tamboti Tented Camp extensively damaged with about half of the 40 tents with flood damage - yes those views will certainly be different. Somehow sad to me as I was very involved during the planning and construction phase and this was a product we were proud of! I am confident the renewed tents will again be attractive and popular!

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 Post subject: Re: Kruger is flooding
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This is really sad ! :(


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 Post subject: Re: Lake Panic flood damage??
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The lower dam was washed away, but the top one where the hide is situated is OK. Some minor damage at the hide. But you will be able to take your photos.

Here is the topic: Lake Panic

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 Post subject: Re: Lake Panic - Lives up to its name
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Some damage to the walk way.

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 Post subject: Re: Lake Panic - Lives up to its name
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:big_eyes: That is shocking :cry: :thumbs_up: Imberbe

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 Post subject: Re: Kruger is flooding
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Many thanks for the comparison Joep.The power of water . . . .

Very sad that there has been so much damage to Balule and, to a lesser extent, Tamboti. I'm sure that with the expertise we have seen in the past, the rebuilding/refurbishing/repair work will result in equally appreciated accommodation. The views - growth happens no matter what so they may be different but one day they will be lovely again.


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Hi

Joep you posted a really clear message thank you. How sad this is. Looking at previous posts I agree regarding keeping the 2 camps as rustic as possible. For many people this is the Kruger and as usual the Kruger does consider everyones tastes and ideals, so I am sure they will do their best to restore the camps. Again Kruger please let us know if you intend to have a fund we can donate to. I am sure any donation would be gratefully received.


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Thank you Joep. Its very interesting

I wonder how long it will take to repair all those damaged tents or replace them. What will happen to the people who booked in tamboti in February. Do they have to look for other accommodation by them selfs or does kruger appoint them other accommodation? (my parents will be staying there for a few days beginning of February) :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Kruger is flooding
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Thanks for the info, Joep. Very sad to hear of all the damage throughout the KNP. I was especially saddened to hear that Tamboti had been badly damaged. We are only fairly recent "converts" to Tamboti and look forward to staying there again (luckily no booking at the moment).

Sincerely hope that Balule and Tamboti are fixed as soon as humanly possible and are restored to be the same as before the flooding (i.e. not "tarted up" too much).

Congratulations to all in KNP for so quickly getting most things up and running again.

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 Post subject: Re: Lake Panic - Lives up to its name
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Hi Imberbe

Thank you for the update and picture on the Walkway next to the nursery...

Its really incredible to see it so mangled :shock: , but really hope the Park Management will restore it, as it is/ was a well meaning educational tool for adults and children, on the need for wetlands and their function :thumbs_up: .

All children I took there loved going for the walk on it, (also more of an opportunity to stretch legs and move about after being in a vehicle, I am sure :hmz: ) But it made a big impact... to all of us 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Kruger is flooding
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Hi 'mites :yaya:

Please find another media update here for your attention.
I know many of you have been asking about Lake Panic Birdhide and unfortunately, the hide is temporarily closed due to the dam wall that breached last week. :(

Please note that Guests are kindly urged to use water sparingly as camps/ gates and picnic spots in many area operate on emergency pumps and boreholes with limited capacity. Guests to Satara are also requested to use electricity sparingly as Eskom supply line at Balule was washed away and camp is operating on standby generator.
The Roads Section is currently very busy with grading activities in the Marula Region around the Biyamiti area and guests are warned to exercise caution when using these roads until all work has been completed.

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 Post subject: Re: Lake Panic - Lives up to its name
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Looking at initial pictures and reports, it looks like the damage is vast and widespread, and there will surely be a batting order of priorities to restore, with ccommodation surely featuring high on the list as that is losing revenue, so don't be in a hurry.

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Thanks to Joep and Lesego. :thumbs_up: Makes for a pretty depressing read .....Worst suspicions confirmed re Tamboti which was really hammered and is just a heartbreaker. As Joep says... any previous info about which units had the best view will now have to be re-assessed !! Might just have to wedge in a little scouting trip when its back to normal pre our December trip :hmz:

Was thinking that the loss of Tshokwane toilets though will definitely have an impact people out and about who hear the call? The next closest ablutions are Orpen dam but its not exactly designed for the same volumes. I assume Nkuhlu will be seeing a lot more traffic as well now until sufficient repairs are completed. If one is heading north though and Nhlanguleni and even Muzandzeni are closed, then people might need to bear this in mind when they are out and about? I wonder if SANParks should consider putting in some extra temporary builders toilets at Orpen dam?Just a thought-----


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