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 Post subject: Re: Are Kgalagadi's roads as bad as some say??
Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 3:32 pm 
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arks wrote:
While I haven't visited KTP recently (last time was February 2010), I have always visited in a (hired) small sedan


There is absoluutly nothing wrong with the roads if you drive in a hired car ! :twisted:
However when you drive in your own car you sometimes tend to cringe. I was also there in December and generally the roads were good. The road to Mata-Mata was really bad, but a couple of days later it was fine again. Like Jannie said - they are trying really hard to maintain the roads.
If only we could get these people who drive so fast off the roads..... :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Are Kgalagadi's roads as bad as some say??
Unread postPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 4:22 pm 
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Hi, I left the park on Sunday and can honestly say that, apart from the occasional bad patch, the roads are in as good a condition as I've seen them in the last 20 years. Deflate your tyres and stick to the speed limit and you'll have a wonderful time.

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 Post subject: Re: Are Kgalagadi's roads as bad as some say??
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myles wrote:
Hi, I left the park on Sunday and can honestly say that, apart from the occasional bad patch, the roads are in as good a condition as I've seen them in the last 20 years. Deflate your tyres and stick to the speed limit and you'll have a wonderful time.

Myles

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 Post subject: Re: Are Kgalagadi's roads as bad as some say??
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I've complained bitterly about the KTP roads in the past but I must say that the last couple of years the roads have been fine in KTP even for non-4x4 vehicles.

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 Post subject: Re: Are Kgalagadi's roads as bad as some say??
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I say as long as your head is not :wall: :wall: :wall: against the steering wheel, the roads are fine :whistle: :D

The roads are part of the experience 8) As long as your tyre pressure is right and you keep to the speedlimit, everything is :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Are Kgalagadi's roads as bad as some say??
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Was there in mid december and the roads were not too bad and they were graded while we were at MM :thumbs_up: You will bounce around but it is worth it 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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It is important to always keep in mind that heat is the tyre's number-one enemy.

A tyre the size of your average 4X4 rotates about 440 time per kilometer. Each time a tyre rotates, the sidewall flexes about thirty to forty times. A tyre sidewall, like a piece of wire that gets bent back-and-forth builds up heat - and like that piece of wire - will break if it gets too hot.

The sidewall of a tyre is designed to flex - at its optimum inflation pressure - and the heat generated by this flexing is known to the designers and is "catered" for. When a tyre is deflated, it is flexing beyond its design and excess heat is generated. The solution to this is to reduce speed and distance travelled. The more you reduce the pressure - the more you reduce your speed and distance travelled.

I do not know of any tyre manufacturer who recommends below 100kPa (1 BAR), and certainly not for any sustained period and not faster than 25kph.

I am fully aware of the ongoing discussion on this forum regarding tyre inflation pressures and road corrugations. I have previously offered some information on this topic and do not wish to comment further on some of the "theories" on offer here.

This is simply a cautionary note to weigh up short-term comfort vs. long-term damage to tyres. The problem is that the damage that can be caused in this way is not obviously apparent because it is internal.

Tread-separations, internal damage of the tubeless inner-liner and subsequent failure are the types of heat-related problems that could be experienced. Simply put, at a high enough temperature, rubber breaks down. Not to mention damage to the increasingly exposed sidewall caused by sharp objects.

When you take into account the prevailing ambient temperatures that can be experienced in the
Kgalgadi it makes these facts even more thought provoking. Of course, increased load affects the sidewall profile of the tyre in exactly the same way that under-inflation does. In other words, if you are carrying a load, do not deflate to the same pressure as when there is no load.


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Not sure if this had been answered somewhere in this thread, but I want to know if the road on the Botswana side from Leeudril to Kij Kij (due to the normal road still being closed) a two way road is, in other words, can yo also drive from Kij Kij down to Leeudril on the Botstwana side?

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Hi Blackie

Yes, you can drive it both ways - gets a bit interesting when you meet another car coming in the opposite direction but its easy enough to find a spot to wait for the other car to pass you :thumbs_up:

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Blackie wrote:
Not sure if this had been answered somewhere in this thread, but I want to know if the road on the Botswana side from Leeudril to Kij Kij (due to the normal road still being closed) a two way road is, in other words, can yo also drive from Kij Kij down to Leeudril on the Botstwana side?

Yes, it is a two-way road so it's no problem to drive from Kij Kij down to Leeudril.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Thanks guys for the heads up.

BTW, any news on the progress made with the road from Leeudril to Kij Kij? Last I heard was that new contractors had been appointed and would have started soon.

Will be there from 9th to 20th April and was hoping the road would have been completed by then.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Morning all,

Regarding the road from Leeuwdril to Kij Kij. The new contractors have started about two weeks ago and they are pushing hard to get the road done.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Morning all,

Regarding the road from Leeuwdril to Kij Kij. The new contractors have started about two weeks ago and they are pushing hard to get the road done.

Regards

KG


Hallo Jannie!

We are heading back there on Sunday for 2 weeks. I just heard from someone else in the Park that Rooiputs waterhole is closed with the construction taking place again on the road now - is it true? And can one still drive from Twee Rivieren to Kij-Kij now if you have an SUV?

Thanks for your time

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Morkel,

Unfortunately the part of the road just before Rooiputs waterhole has been closed where the contractors are working on, BUT we have made provision for n two track road joining the Botswana road which can be taken enabling guests to drive from Twee Rivieren to Kij Kij waterhole / Rooipouts camp site.

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
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Thanks Jannie.
I assume with the work continuing there's more noise and a decrease in animal activity on the stretch between Leeuwdril and Kij Kij then?
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