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 Post subject: Re: SKUKUZA - HIDDEN HISTORIES
Unread postPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:11 am 
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Ecojunkie best of luck and well wishes to you and the heritage group. I think that what you do is brilliant and great. It would be so appreciated if you and Mr Joep Stevens (thanks for the info on the Lion Cottage) could share some interesting information with us from time to time.

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Ecojunkie can you tell us more about this heritage group you mentioned? If possible I would love to get involved in it

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It is set up as a 'project group' of the Lowveld Honorary Rangers together with the relevant folk in Skukuza. So you really need to be an HR or a SANparks staff member to be part of the group...... I am there largely by default....the manager I help is involved, and so I am too!

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I am an Honorary Ranger (JHB Region) so would I be able to get involved? What exactly does the group do/get involved in?

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I will pm you the email address of the HR who is handling the project, and you can then ask her all the questions!

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During the 1947 Royal Tour the royalties visited the Kruger National Park, did they stay over? and if so where? I found film footage of them driving in the park and I thought that they actually went there by train.

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From memory I seem to recall that the royal train overnighted at Rolle (or was it Newington ?) siding to the west of the current KNP boundary .

I will have to look it up in Dr Tol Pienars book "Neem Uit Die Verlede" or James Stevenson Hamiltons book "African Eden ."

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I cannot find it in Neem Uit die Verlede

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In "African Eden" I can only find a reference to the Greek Royal familys visit by train during the war .

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I think that you may be right about the fact that they did not sleep in Skukuza, I watched some film footage of the 1947 Royal Tour but no reference to their sleeping arrangments

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I still think this topic is so very interesting :thumbs_up: . I am also not sure but did the royal family not arrive by train in Skukuza during their visit in 1947? Perhaps they dined and slept on the train that they arrived in? It cannot be part of the steam train that is currently seen at the Selati Restaurant as that one was only build in 1949; apparently a fire destroyed some of it 16 years ago. Perhaps someone could enlighten us with the actual events which would be very interesting :)

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I know they traveled throughout South Africa on the White train, and the railways operated to KNP from 1926 if I am not mistaken. I was hoping that they may have slept at Struben Guest Cottage but all indications are that they actually slept on the train - Ndloti thinks at Newington. I found some references to Nelspruit on the films. I am trying to find out which VIP's slept in Struben during the early years as it was built for VIP's at the time.

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Hi Ecojunkie, I hope the work of the heritage group is going well. It would be nice if you or someone from the group could one day when you have time tell us a little bit more about it :thumbs_up: .

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Hi All,

Very interesting thread.

If you know any books on history of Kruger pls let me know.

thanks.


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Rakesh , look here :

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