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 Post subject: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2011 2:18 pm 
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Hi all,

I currently use filters as protection for the end of my lenses...

Is there specific filters that will be more useful for my trip in August to Kruger.

I have a D90, 70-300 F4.5/5.6 and will be hiring a 70-200 F2.8 lens+1.7 convertor.

Any guidance would be greatly recieved.

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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john n poppy wrote:
Is there specific filters that will be more useful for my trip in August to Kruger.

Not a filter. Never ever use a filter unless it is really, really needed. To protect your lens you have your lenshood.
The lenshood will do more than protect your front lens, it'll do what it has been designed to do, which is preventing lensflare.

Filters, especially the cheaper ones, degrade the image quality, and that is the last thing you want.

You can take a neutral density filter or a polariser with, those can be handy in landscape photos.

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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Hi JnP,

I also use a Nikon D90 and use Hoya UV filters on all my lenses. I have done my own personal tests and for me I can't see one bit of a difference on my shots with / without UV filters on. Yes, the lens hood does protect your lens, but there was one situation where I would've had to buy a new 70-300mm lens if it were not for my UV lens to protect it...

Agree, take neutral density filter or a polariser filters with. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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thanks switchback and duques,

This is exactly my quandry some say without and some say with!!!

I will definitly try and get a polarised filter though so thanks for that info and youll be able to grade me when I post my trip in september...ish.

thanks again.

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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There are quite a few topics around the internet with people complaining about their lens being soft. Returning from a trip with not-good photos.

But you can easily test it (testing with a pola I would advise anyway, then you don't need to figure out how to work it in the field.).

Just grab a tripod, the lens and the filters. Pop off to a nice place where you can test, and start shooting with and without filters. It would not be a bad choice to bring a testcard with, like this one.
Just set it up and without changing aperture or anything! make photos with and without filter. Then compare the photos at 100% at home.

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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thanks duques...were you trying to hypnotise me with that card...

great advice, thanks

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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Without even testing it is really very, very simple. You spend R20k on a great lens (70-200) that has some of the best quality glass available to man and then slap a R200 filter in front of it. Why not just shoot thru a curtain? If the filter was not a problem then lens manufacturers would be spitting out great lenses that cost R500...


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Berkhead wrote:
and then slap a R200 filter in front of it. Why not just shoot thru a curtain?


Yes, you're right, you don't slap a R200 filter in front of it - that would be the curtain you talk about. What you do slap in front of it is a DECENT Hoya Pro1D UV Filter and the curtain will be lifted... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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:wall: Makes absolutely no difference - so you use an expensive curtain. The point is no filter, no matter how good can ever compare with pure unadulterated quality glass. Period.


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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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Whilst I do agree with Berkhead, lets have everyone make up his/her mind? The method I proposed to John works, is fun to do, and gives him a chance to try out the pola and Neutral Density.

I am firmly against UV filters, no matter what they cost. But from my earlier posts that easily seen.
They cause flare, degrade (arguably depending on quality) the image quality, and filter out something that you do not see, and does not hurt.

But 100% views of with or without will show it.
I hope he posts the results, the photos I mean.

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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Maybe, but I do know I would've had to replace a lens had it not been for my UV... Accidents do happen, no matter how carefull you are. Is that "little" bit of softnes you speak of (which I don't see the difference of anyway...) worth R20k or more? :hmz: For my hard earned money, no it's not, but hey, maybe for someone else it's nothing to replace a lens... :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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no fighting now.... :lol:

I am sure the better the filter the less difference it has on the 'curtain', I will definitly be removing my cheap filters from my own lenses, but I would definitly try a polarizing filter just to see the difference...if there is any....anyway thanks all

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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Switchback wrote:
Maybe, but I do know I would've had to replace a lens had it not been for my UV... Accidents do happen, no matter how carefull you are. Is that "little" bit of softnes you speak of (which I don't see the difference of anyway...) worth R20k or more? :hmz: For my hard earned money, no it's not, but hey, maybe for someone else it's nothing to replace a lens... :whistle:


Accidents do happen and yes lenses are expensive. Personally that is why i insure them. As a beginner I was also taught to use UV filters for protection and all I can tell you is the day that i discarded them (including a R1500 Hoya Pro Filter) was the day my photography went to the next level.

John, no one is suggesting that you don't use polarising filters. Filters certainly have their place and using them creatively to enhance/alter light when you are after a certain effect is fine. I am merely arguing against using them purely as a protective mechanism with no thought for the effect they are having on the light. My 2c...use it don't use it. :?


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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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thanks Berkhead,

your 2C gladely recieved.

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 Post subject: Re: Filters....or no filters (Nikon)
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I was going to buy a polarising filter (this weekend in fact) solely to be used for lanscape photography in the desert, but after reading through this thread, I am having some doubts.
Why want to buy a filter? I think its just the thing to use to bring out the contrasting colours of the landscape and the sky. I have seen some photos where these filters were used and I became very excited. I took some photos of welwitchias and were very dissapointed, as the colours were nowhere close to what it really looked like (sun sun sun, nowhere to hide)
What do you think?
Thank you - B


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