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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:18 am 
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...It doesn't seem to perch like a Fish Eagle either.

...which is unacceptable, but it still is one. Probably 3rd or 4rth year. Note the dark eyes, yellow base to the bill, dark underparts and fat eagle-like body. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Dabchick & JoelR.

The picture on the forum may not be all that clear. If interested, send me a PM & I can forward a larger version that you can zoom in on.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I found this bird at Olifants Camp in September, I never logged the sighting, so I dont know what my toughts of it were at that time.

I am pretty sure of the ID, and no doubt that it is a young bird, but a few things on this bird bothers me:
1. Pure white under wing coverlets
2. That very distinct black collar
3. The line over the eye towards the back of the head is very solid.

Lets see what you think?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Imax,

My thoughts lean to palmnut vulture immature.

If seen in KNP this seems a very rare sighting!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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No such luck I'm afraid, it is an immature African Fish Eagle. The terminal black band on the underside of the tail is diagnostic.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Niall and Gregor.

Niall, thanks for confirming. I have never seen one with such pronounced black band on the chest, but yes that terminal band also had me on fish eagle.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Some more raptors from my stay in Kruger NP in August this year. We only visited the southern half of the park, so that's where these pictures are from once more.

Once again I'm new to birdwatching and I don't feel that confident with raptor id, in particular with immature birds.

The next bird was identified at the time as an immature fish eagle. My guide doesn't seem to suggest that it could have that much white on it below, hence I'm wondering whether that's correct.

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Thanks for your help. A couple of birds to go...


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Kitefarrago,

Just seen your other pic - Immature Fish Eagle. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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:thumbs_up: Agree.

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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, African Fish
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I was at Lake Sibaya in the iSimangaliso Wetland Park in March 2010 and I have never seen so many African Fish Eagles - I think they had over 20 nesting pairs. We stood at the edge of the lake and spotted a AFE in the distance and then it flew down onto the surface of the lake and stayed there for some seconds - like it was floating on the water. It then took off with a fish in its claws - my first and only experience of actually seeing a fish eagle fish :). It then flew and settled down on a bank close to where we were and of course I walked over to a position as close as possible without disturbing the eagle and its prey. We watched it feed on the fish till its mate flew over and it took off with the fish. Foll are a selection of some of the pics I took
I am not sure if it is appropriate to post Lake Sibaya pics here, and if it is not, my sincere apologies

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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, African Fish
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Stunning pics Sandeep :clap: :clap: :clap: It must have been great to watch the Fish Eagle :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, African Fish
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Those are very nice pictures. :clap: :clap:

I was at Sunsetdam at Lower Sabie on 2011-03-04 and saw a number of African Fish Eagles catching fish from the dam. I got the following sequence of photos which shows the eagle catching a fish from the dam.

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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, African Fish
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Thanks Katja and Leeukos. Yes, yet another of the magical moments which stays with you :).

Great pics Leeukos. I have always seen them at the Sunset Dam but never got a chance to actually see them fish. Leeukos a question - when you watched the fish eagles coming down on the water, did they grab the fish during flight or did you also get the same impression that I did that the eagle actually settled on the surface of the water for a few moments and then flew off with its catch??


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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, African Fish
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Hi Sandeep. The Fish Eagles I saw at Sunsetdam grabbed the fish during flight. After you mentioned that it looked like the eagle first settled on the water I remembered reading something interesting. It seems it all depends on the size of the fish.

The fish eagle prefers fish which weighs less than 1 kg. They say it can easily carry fish off up to 2 kg and then fly off. Fish that weigh more than 2 kg are dragged across the water or the eagle will fall back into the water and uses its wings to row back to the side of the dam.

I have never seen a Fish Eagle to first settle on the water and then take off, but I think it might be due to the size of the fish, getting a good grip, and then taking off.

Maybe some other members of the forum can give more information on this.

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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, African Fish
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Thanks Leeukos. I am no expert on fish, but would say that the fish that I saw with the eagle looked a fair size, so this may well be the case.
Yes would be interesting to see if any of the other forumites can comment

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