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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 11:24 pm 
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Pale form Wahlberg's Eagle...

Head typical with smallish face and distinctive crest. Also legs not long enough and talons not powerful enough for juvenile Martial or African Crowned Eagles.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Phabeni again. Note the Drongo ready for attack.

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The Drongo reminds me of my little dog Chino.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi MM,

The one with the Drongo is a Wahlberg's Eagle (Colour difference between head and back, bill size and shape, slight crest).

Great sighting, I'm a tad :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thank you Barcud. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi everyone.

Got an Eagle on the Birding weekend in Punda Maria. Was seen on the Mahonie loop. Lizet had a look at it on my camera but it didn't show that well because of the poor light. She said it looked like a Wahlbergs. Does look like one. Just confirming it. So here is the large form:

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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Ferdelance, agree with your wahlberg id.

Oneday, I also want a camera with a Loooong lense ! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Eagle: Wahlberg's
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi I am back with a couple of more requests for ID pl

and this is the 2nd raptor

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Thanks for the help...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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The fully feathered legs, streaked chest and black upper chest leads me to Martial Eagle.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I am going to differ with number 2.

This raptor is rather interesting and could IMO be one of two things

1. It could be an intermediate/immature form of a Pale Wahlbergh's Eagle. The general giss of the bird is quite right for Wahlbergs, but I have never seen a pale form WE with a dark brown head which points me to the second option

2. Booted Eagle. The white pale coloration underneath all the way down the the tail, the slight streaking on the chest. In picture 2 I almost want to say I see a sign of "landing lights" on the shoulders.

The only thing that makes me question the Booted Eagle theory is the all brown head, normally it will have a brown head, neck and sides but a bit less on the throat where this bird is dark all around the head.

Any more photo's of this raptor?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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DotDan wrote:


It could be an intermediate/immature form of a Pale Wahlbergh's Eagle. The general giss of the bird is quite right for Wahlbergs, but I have never seen a pale form WE with a dark brown head


Not immature... Wahlberg's are known for their diversity in colour forms and this variant is a well-known adult form as shown by Warwick Tarboton on his webpage for the Wahlberg's eagle.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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sandeep,

Bird2: :thumbs_up: Wahlberg's Eagle: as JvR said, they can vary a lot, dark eye and longish unbarred black tail, beak not as fearsome as Tawny's...


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:21 pm 
Hey, sandeep!

What time of year was it that you took your pics?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks for all the help and the responses. Unfortunately I do not have any more pics of either of the raptors. These pics were taken in KNP in Jan 2010 - over a year back. While I cannot recollect where exactly these ones were taken, on that trip I basically covered Skukuza and south of Skukuza - Berg en Dal/ Lower Sabie. So this would be that area.

The 2nd raptor left me zapped :hmz: and my limited knowledge came a cropper :). While the chest was white, there were no markings like the typical ones for a martial, but then it did not look like all the immature martials that I had seen either...The dark colouring all around the head did resemble a martial though :hmz: to be honest the booted eagle never even struck me and neither did the Wahlberg possibility enter my head...

Anyway I hope the location and period may give some of you a better idea and would be grateful for any further advise

thanks and regards

Sandeep


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:17 pm 
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I think they are both Wahlbergs...definitely the 2nd one!


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