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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:56 am 
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I'm really struggling to identify these birds I saw near Skukuza last week. Didn't see them fly - a truck rushed between us and they were gone. I find brown raptors REALLY REALLY difficult!
?? dark morph booted eagle

If one looks at the tail of the bird on the right, it can be seen that the outer most retrices are longer than the inner ones. This leads to the suggestion that both these two birds are juvenile Kites, of which the two species are very difficult to tell apart in juvenile plumage.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Matthew, I would love to be able to help you but I am afraid I am just not good enough to be able to give you a clear ID on your pic.
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We saw this Eagle in KTP 2 weeks ago and I would like to know if it could be the streaked or striped version of the Tawny or am I on the wrong track completely.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Matthew, I would love to be able to help you but I am afraid I am just not good enough to be able to give you a clear ID on your pic.
Sorry.


We saw this Eagle in KTP 2 weeks ago and I would like to know if it could be the streaked or striped version of the Tawny or am I on the wrong track completely.

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Hi Elsa

Looks to be a Yellow-billed Kite

Have a close look @ the legs of this bird and you will see that they are not fully feathered. All true eagles have fully feathered legs. So that immediately points you away from The Tawny


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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It can't be a Yellow-billed Kite because a YBK has a totally yellow bill. But it might be a Black Kite.

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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Elsa, I agree with Ross, juvenile yellowbilled kite.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Ok a slight adjustment

Just looking through Complete Photographic guide to Birds of Southern Africa by Ian Sinclair and Peter Ryan.

The Juvenile Yellow-billed and Black Kites are very similar and hard to differentiate in the field, as both have black bill with yellow cere and buffy margins to the feathers on the back of the bird


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Elsa wrote:
Matthew, I would love to be able to help you but I am afraid I am just not good enough to be able to give you a clear ID on your pic.
Sorry.


We saw this Eagle in KTP 2 weeks ago and I would like to know if it could be the streaked or striped version of the Tawny or am I on the wrong track completely.

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You are most likely wrong as some mentioned this bird is one of the Kites in juvenile plumage

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yes, its seems I was on the wrong track and my bird is indeed a Juv Yellow-billed Kite, which I have never seen before, only the adults.
Thanks to all who helped with the ID. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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And then this one, a different raptor.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Charbel

Yellow-billed or Black Kite.
In this pic you can see the forked tail and the wings are held above the birds body and are slightly pointed.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Charbel.

Tails scream kite, most likely yellow-billed since in Kruger.

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Many many thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Kite: Yellow billed
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Saw a yellow billed kite drifting along Pierneef Rd in Villieria (Pretoria) at about 5 minutes past 6 this morning.

Interestingly, the only other time I've seen a YBK in Pretoria was in late February last year, also very early in the morning, over Duncan Rd in Hatfield.

The two sightings are about 5 kms apart.


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 Post subject: Re: Kite: Yellow billed
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Only just found this thread. :thumbs_up:

We have been in Port Edward since October, and regularly have YBKs flying over our garden.
Saw one yesterday :dance: :dance:

However, I have yet to see one land to get a better view :cry: :cry:

Here's hoping :pray: :pray:


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 Post subject: Re: Kite: Yellow billed
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I have it on good authority that these raptors seen in KTP in Jan are in fact Juvenile Yellow-billed Kites, a first of a juv. for us.

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