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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Gregor » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:18 pm

Lizet Grobbelaar wrote:Monovo,

It can easily be Lesser Spotted :thumbs_up: if you consider the tightly feathered legs, small size and beak. It has to be a Juv because of the dark eye and white tipped feathers on the wing and the pale windows on the upper wing. Unfortunately we can't see the chest - for the spots..The white patch on the back is also found in some individuals.


Lizet, for the process of learning from you, can you tell me (apart from the fact that Greater spotted eagle is super rare) why this cannot be a greater spotted eagle, according to my book, this one is darker than the lesser one and looks more like the bird on the picture from coloration.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Barcud » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:34 pm

Hi Gregor,

LSE has a rounded head with a small, buzzard like bill. The barring on the secondaries is also a good indicator. GSE at this age would normally also show markedly more white spotting, but there are individuals with a lot less spotting, so beware of this feature.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Manovo-Gounda » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:39 pm

Hi Barcud & Lizet Grobbelaar

Many thanks for your comments!

This would be my first sighting of a lesser spotted eagle :) .

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Gregor » Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:26 am

Barcud wrote:Hi Gregor,

LSE has a rounded head with a small, buzzard like bill. The barring on the secondaries is also a good indicator. GSE at this age would normally also show markedly more white spotting, but there are individuals with a lot less spotting, so beware of this feature.

Hope this helps.



Yes, it does Barcud, Thanks a lot!
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Lizet Grobbelaar » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:59 pm

Gregor,
It's as Barcud explained, I can just add that in the Dark form LSE the contrast between the secondaries/Primaries and body colour is more than with GSE, and when the GSE is pale there will be a white trailing edge to the wings.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Gregor » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:39 am

Hello Guys,

Below are 2 pictures of raptors which have seemed to give a lot of different opinions about their ID's.
I hope more of you can join the discussion, please feel free to give me your opinions, but always with arguments please.

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Thanx in advance,

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Gregor » Sat Dec 04, 2010 10:42 am

I am sorry,

I forgot to mention my own thoughts.............


2. Tawny eagle (dark form)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Manovo-Gounda » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:47 pm

Hi Gregor,

Thanks for the nice but challenging pictures!

2. Here I would go for adult lesser spotted eagle: yellow eye (which one must zoom in tho see it), small head, round nostril (tawny eagle would have elongated nostrils), thin leggings (tightly feathered lower right leg visible).

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby MattAxel » Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:51 pm

Can anyone help me ID this Eagle seen last week in the KNP on the H10 close to Tshokwane picnic spot? I think its either Steppe or Lesser Spotted.

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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby walt3 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:05 pm

Matthew, wow, everything so dark. The small bits of white below the primaries and the straightish trailing wing edge make me lean towards lesser spotted.

Oneday, I also want a camera with a Loooong lense ! :)

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby ross hawkins » Mon Feb 14, 2011 9:51 am

@ MattAxel

Just had a look @ your eagle again
Lesser Spotted Eagle
Coincidently take a look @ page 94 no.3 Complete Photographic Field Guide Birds of Southern Africa.
You'll see your pic is almost a carbon copy o the one in the book :)

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby MattAxel » Tue Feb 15, 2011 11:04 pm

@Ross

Thanks so much, I don't have that field guide, I'll try get my hands on it as soon as possible though.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby RUMURUTI » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:17 pm

Here's the picture!!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby MattAxel » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:56 pm

I think you're right, Lesser Spotted.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby walt3 » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:59 pm

Hallo Rumuruti

Small on my screen, but would concur, lesser spotted eagle, juvenile.


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