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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:38 pm 
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Hi MM,

The large brown Eagle looks like a streaked form Tawny.

Great sightings, I'm a tad :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thank you Barcud. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Could this be a dark form Booted Eagle. Seen in the Lower Sabie area Jan 2011
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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Tilandi, your bird does not look like a Booted Eagle, rather more like a Tawny.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi
I have another one in doubt - is this the paler form of tawny or wahlberg's?? I had thought wahlberg's, but then looking at some of the google images, could be .... :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:17 pm 
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Sandeep

I'd say the pale form of tawny. The size, the very dark primaries and secondaries and finally the company it keeps ! :)


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks Walt.
On the "company it keeps", there were about 40 odd raptors on the ground and on a termite feast, including bateleurs, white headed vultures, tawny, wahlberg's etc and these 2, like a few others were perched on branches waiting their turn or mood to join in.

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 Post subject: Re: Eagle, Tawny
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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sandeep wrote:
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Hi
I have another one in doubt - is this the paler form of tawny or wahlberg's?? I had thought wahlberg's, but then looking at some of the google images, could be .... :hmz:






I saw people ID'd this one as a marsh Harrier, but this is hard to believe, this bird looks a lot more like a tawny eagle in a pale form to me.
This bird looks to big for a harrier and has a bill that is way to big for a harrier.
This must be an eagle.
Anyone agree or disagree with me??

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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ID'ing brown raptors can sometimes be a real pain in the butt, I have spent quite a lot of time in the Kruger ID'ing these guys and would like to share some of my experiences that might help anybody in the future.

On the Pale Tawny Eagle photo of Sandeep, what amazes me even more than a Harrier ID :lol: is the fact that the Tawny is sitting next to a White Headed Vulture which nobody realized and is an uncommon sighting on its own and a very special sighting indeed.

Taking size into consideration is the best way to make the distinction between the Pale Wahlbergs and Tawny here.. the White Headed Vulture is about 85 cm where the Tawny measures in at about 75cm... the Wahlbergs is only about 55cm which would make him about 30 cm smaller than the vulture.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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This is a special request for Trevor hardaker, Johan van Rensburg, Falconryforever and all the other raptor specialists on this forum.

I posted 3 pictures to ID in the past, for me they were really hard. I have had a few comments, but nowhere near a true ID for these pictures, I want to post them once more in the next few days, can I ask all of you to participate and help me ID these for raptors????

Thanx in advance,

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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Well, here they are:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Welcome to the forum Trevor. I am sure your knowledge & wisdom will be welcome here.

Gregor, 3 looks like aclassic tawny eagle, the rest I would also be quessing.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Why "welcome" BB, Trevor has been here for ages, you are the one who does not visit the Bird threads :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Gregor, those photos are a little too small for me to make any meaningful comments about the id's. I could take some wild guesses based on the little bit of detail I can see in the photos, but that really wouldn't be worth too much. Perhaps you could email the high res versions of these photos (and whatever other images you have of the birds concerned) to me so that I can try and zoom in on them to get some detail - hardaker at mweb dot co dot za. I will, of course, post the comments here once I've had a chance to look at them.

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