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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby SamoesaWoestyn » Mon Aug 23, 2010 5:56 pm

Are the ladies giving you some trouble Aat???

You are a man on demand....
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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Mon Aug 23, 2010 6:36 pm

mmmmm mention me one lady not giving trouble :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Samantha .... I also like to tease sometimes :whistle: :whistle:

SamoesaWoestyn wrote:Are the ladies giving you some trouble Aat???

You are a man on demand....

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby onewithnature » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:42 am

The Teasing Tuskerman. :twisted:
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Is this Tsotsi?

Unread postby Ingwe123 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:58 am

Took these shots in KNP close to Letaba in 2007. Well, this is about as close as I can get to elephant apart from only 300mm lens... I am too freekin scared of them.

Going through the tusker Gallery, I wondered if this might be Tsotsi?

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Re: Is this Tsotsi?

Unread postby Flutterby » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:52 am

Lovely pics! :thumbs_up: We saw him in March near Mooiplaas but much further away...even with the 300mm lens! :roll:
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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Ingwe123 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:41 pm

Hi everyone,

Found out I have a photo of Nwanedzi (thanks to Aat's docs) in the Letaba river bank as well. His hormones were probably playing around! :shock:

Taken in February 2010.

(If I have identified this ellie wrong, please let me know... thanx)

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Re: Is this Tsotsi?

Unread postby Ingwe123 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:23 pm

Here's a 100% crop of the trunk area. The ears are not really visible on the pics. Working through Aat's docs, I discovered this might be Masthulele? Never knew ellie pics can be this fun!

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Re: Is this Tsotsi?

Unread postby Aat » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:49 pm

Hi Ingwe123,
The one you have seen is Masthulele.
Easy to ID because of the detail you all missed .... :) :)
Look at the carve at his left tusk on the detailed picture.
Including his tusks, trunk etc no doubt he is Masthulele.

Little story about 3 Tusketiers... Tsotsi, Masthulele and Masorini.
They all are kind of look-alikes. Masorini and Masthulele even very much, even the thickened skin on his trunk (same father ???)
Tsotsi can be recognized by the large notch in his right ear and a smaller u shaped notch below this notch, Masthulele by little hole in left ear and scar on his left tusk and Masorini by clean ears.
Looking from a distance to the tusks , like thickness and shape they all look very much the same.
Masorini however died early this year,so in 2007 it could be him.
As said ID was possible by the scar on the left tusk.
Maybe nice for you to try out....
Look at the pics of Anthony Robertson (also 2007) and you can see the match yourselves (same position and scar is good visible)
http://www.tuskersofafrica.com/tuskers/masthulele_001.htm

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Re: Is this Tsotsi?

Unread postby Aat » Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:59 pm

When I saw your picture I recognized something like I have seen this picture before and yes like you said it was probably same day/time almost.
Great you have seen this tusker , I think many do not realize that there are not so many (named) tuskers.
However I am getting the impression that there are maybe more then we think at the moment, just looking at the section new & promising there are about 19 in there now and the section is "growing".
I have some more to add.

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:15 pm

Ingwe123,
Looked at the tusker at your picture but is not yet known to me.
I think it is not Nwanedzi since I see a notch in the left ear and they are not at my pictures. Also I think the left broken tusk is smaller.
I made a copy of your picture and keep it in file with the not ID't tuskers and see if I can find him between other entries.

It comes to me by all entries I get that there are more big/midsized tuskers then maybe assumed...that's great.

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby okie » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:57 pm

Aat wrote:
It comes to me by all entries I get that there are more big/midsized tuskers then maybe assumed...that's great.


Aat , considering that for the past 20 years or so , no more culling has taken place in Kruger , and as a result therof , the number of ellies have grown tremendously . And now all those youngsters of 20- 30 are reaching full maturity , and also even going on to old-age . So therefore , it is probably not really surprising to see so many ellies with big tusks :hmz: Coming out of the bush so to speak , and being seen :whistle:
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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:45 pm

Okie,
That makes sense and maybe also some older bulls/tuskers came from the Mozambique areas after opening the fences.
If it goes this way I am "afraid" :lol: :lol: I have to extend my disk and serverspace for all these tuskers. :hmz: :hmz:

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Big Tuskers ID

Unread postby Aat » Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:07 pm

@All

I updated my tusker ID document recently. Just want to add to this that I just today changed the ID pictures for Tsotsi and Masthulele.

From a distance , even short distance they look very much like twin brothers and make it more complex Masorini was a kind of copy of Masthulele too.

For just a few hints for the living ones , Tsotsi and Masthulele:
Main differences:
Tsotsi : Wide notch at top of right ear and a U-shaped notch just below this. I found another ID mark , a kind of "knot" on his left ear. I just found that today with older as well as more recent pictures.
Masthulele : small notch and hole in left ear and since 2008 a scar on top of his left tusk and the thickened shin on his trunk on the smaller section.

I marked these ID on the new pictures I added to the ID document today, so Part I is updated by today august 29th 2010.

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby SamoesaWoestyn » Mon Aug 30, 2010 7:36 pm

Good stuff Aat!
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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Tom124 » Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:36 pm

Aat you are inspiringly dedictaed to the cause. Well done!
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