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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
Unread postPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:01 pm 
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When we stayed in a private lodge there was a HUGE spider in our room. I plonked my behind outside and refused to move until that ugly monstrosity was moved far away before I even thought of reentering, and then stayed on guard all night in case it returned. :big_eyes: :big_eyes: :evil: :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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I'm not going to say anything anymore on this thread/t! Only, if I have nightmares over the weekend..!
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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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Oh no, I wish I hadn't, but I did... I could not help myself - Bartman mentioned the spiders in another thread, and out of morbid fascination I decided to have a peak - I actually let out a squeal when the pictures opened on my screen!!!!! If a spider like any of those, dead or alive, fell on me or crawled on me, bitten or not, I would die on the spot... The worst part of all is that I know the fear is not logical, but I can't help myself. We stayed in Frankel at Satara a little while ago - there was a note in the visitors book about the mamba in the lounge and the cave spiders in the room - I've never even heard of a cave spider, but I've got to tell you, they sound HAIRY.... I kid you not, I was more worried about the spiders than the snake! My niece and I checked our rooms thoroughly before going to bed....

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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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I went to Addo once, and at that time the spekboom hide had toilets. I went in, and its a little cubicle. Closed teh door, and to my utmost horror, were a male and female rainspider on the back of teh door. I couldnt breathe, or do a thing, for fear of making them run.I stayed there, paralysed with fear, until my mate asked if I was ok (fortunatly he didnt knock)...I whimpered no.....he knew me, so he knew, he said on "3" U run, and swung teh door f a s t ! (Not as fast as my backside becoming a blur thru teh bush though)

But yes....I have a morbid fascination with them,

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 Post subject: Re: Spider bites
Unread postPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:11 am 
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Hi all,

As a previos person stated a lot of spider bites are blamed on the Violin Spider. However it is difficult to identify the spider as the spider is either gone or crushed and can't be identified. Doctors can treat the infection caused by the spider bite but can't neutralize the spider venom as no antidote excist in the whole of the western world. Normal practise will be to treat the spiderbite according to simptoms which can differ substantial from person to person as with any other insect bites depending on the persons alergic reaction to the specific insect venom and the severity of the infection. I had a very bad experience personnaly with a spider bite and nearly lost my leg. The problem is the infection can be treated but the venom still stay in your system. The after efects can start shortly after the bite or can take a few years and then be contrubuted to something new whith the spider bite long gone and filed away in the past.

I am not a doctor neither am I trying to give any medical advice but any person bitten by a spider, insect or reptile who suffer from after effects or suspect that they suffer from after effects can contact me for further discussion and reveral for a possible sulution. I suffered for 8 years beleive me it cost me dearly and if I can assist any one I will do so. A number of people will remember my story as it was published in the Lowvelder at the time.

It is tru that not many people in South Africa get bitten by spiders therefore the knowledge base for treatment is very limited and our doctors do the best they can with what is available to them.

It is also tru that several people lost there feet, arms or legs and in a few cases there lifes don't fool yourself when the infected area is healed the venom is still in your sistem

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 Post subject: Re: Spider bites
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A very HOT welcome to the forums, Wandelstok (nice name too :clap: )!

Thanks you for the extra information - I believe one can never have too much info! :thumbs_up: And thanks for making yourself available for discussion as you, unfortunately, suffered it first hand.

It is a sad story that you suffered so long. :( Are you completely healed now? Eight years is an unbelievably long time and I think very few people would even consider that the after-effects can continue even a tenth as long as that!

I once saw a man with the after-effects of a spider bite (he said it was a violin spider) that had endured at that stage for two years. The hole in his leg was not healing and was probably the size of a man's fist! The doctors had tried everything they knew and he had specialised dressings that he had to plug into the wound on an ongoing basis.

I have not seen him since, but based on other reports and people I've spoken to, that wound probably will never completely heal.

I think we underestimate the effect that some animals can have on our systems, and so being vigilant is probably our best defence to minimising being bitten in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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While I was busy scaring myself again and showing my SO these pics, our lovebird climbed onto my head - jeepers, I got such a fright when I felt him move that the forum was almost minus one member (and we were almost minus a lovebird coz I swatted the poor little thing thinking he was a creepy crawly).... That's it, no more fluffy spider pics :big_eyes:

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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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[quote="big5spotter]And people dont always see it.They immediately see hair and 8 legs and then they dont like them.[/quote]
B5S you got that right, all I see is 8 legs is 6 more than me so he will out run me and that is scary enough :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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You made me lose my libido, sense of humour and all other feelings of well being.... :evil: I've got goosebumps on places where I did not know I had places!! Yyyaaacckk!!! Why I ever decided to look at this thread is byond me :wall: :wall: :wall:, and its brought daylight and I have checked under my desk at least 5 times already. I curse you my brother, sies man!! :sniper:


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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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First of all, let me apologise for not responding to a number of your posts. This was not because I was sulking, but a simple stupid oversight!

I too am something of an arachnophobe, although, to go by some of the online anecdotes I am up against stiff competition. What bothers me is not the fact that people fear spidery creatures, that I can understand only too well from personal experience, but the apparent tendency to helicopter, reach for the insecticide aerosol, and generally developed a hate for the entire class of Arachnida. This is not good, either for your own health, the health of the spiders, or the health of the environment.

Apart from anything else, by failing to deal with the problem, you not only are complicating your own life, but depriving yourself of many sources of enjoyment. Consider a friend of mine, very sensible and very good-natured, who happened to be a fine calligrapher. I had bought a book on South African spiders for my manager, (no suction involved; he was an old friend!) knowing him to be a keen arachnophile, and I asked her to write a friendly message on the flyleaf. There happened to be an inconveniently placed picture of Palystes, and she was unable to touch the book until I hid the picture. In contrast, a member of my family who has been an arachnophobe all her life controls her reactions, and can benefit from both a more comfortable life and the ability to appreciate these animals where appropriate. For instance, she loves the Salticidae, the jumping spiders, with their engaging big eyes, appealing movements, and amazing biology.

With a bit of patience and good sense one can train oneself, not necessarily to permit giant spiders to crawl over one, but at least to remain calm, in control, and appreciative of the spiders' interesting and often useful attributes.

About the first time that I remember doing this myself, I was on my back in a crevice under a huge boulder, wriggling towards a Pseudocordylus that I was chasing. Suddenly I realised that I was eye to eye with a large Palystes about 10 cm above my nose. Any kind of helicoptering would only have made matters many, many times worse! I reflected that if the spider had not moved yet, it probably would continue to stay where it was, so I continued on my way, secured the Pseudocordylus, and came out by the same door as in I went, saluting my lady friend as I passed her. After all, she had done me something of a favour.

You no doubt we'll be happy to hear that the Pseudocordylus settled down comfortably in captivity and shortly afterwards produced two beautiful young.

You see, never mind the question of whether you can learn to control yourself in the presence of spiders, to mean a far more important point is the very idea of finding any group of living things evil or ugly in their own right. Those photographs of the tarantulas, though I could not easily bring myself to handle them, did not strike me as ugly at all, rather as touching, much like a kitten or tortoise. They are beautiful living creatures. As for the non-reptile lovers among you, consider say the Gaboon viper; it is deadly, but it is very beautiful, and it's camouflage is almost unspeakably beautiful. That is just one example among hundreds. As for most lizards, they are not merely beautiful and touchingly so, but nonthreatening to boot.
Pardon the sermon, but these are really are things that are worth some attention and some dedication to master.

Go well, and enjoy the living things about you,
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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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Oh Jon, would that I could!!!!
I have just found this thread, and have read each post with fascination, but total horror!!!!! :big_eyes:
Why I torture myself, I don't know, but if I see an article written, or a TV programme, I have to absorb myself in it.(all the time looking for the creepy critters out of the corner of my eye :o
As you know, true arachniphobia is a physical condition. If I have a close encounter myself with a spider, I actually become physically sick, and sweaty, with an adrenallin reaction. :big_eyes:
I know the fear is not logical, but is something that is beyond my control.
Having said that I do appreciate their value, and the good work they do, and that they should not be harmed.
I just wish they would know TO STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ME!!!!!! :big_eyes:

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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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vgstephens! You got my vote!
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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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Thanks WD. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Bitten by rain spider
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:hmz: Jon? Should you be, and are you allowed to, catch indigeneous species, and subject them to captivity?

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