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 Post subject: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:22 am 
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Hi All i have been looking for a good second hand lens and i have found to for a realatively good price both can get for R5000 second hand tho!

They are as follows :

sigma 100-300f/4 for canon

Sigma 170-500mm f/5-6.3 APO for Canon EOS

can you please help me and tell me which one is better value for money?
I have a Canon 450D body and i would love to use this lens to get crisp photos of wildlife as wildlife is my passion!

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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:26 am 
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That is a difficult one Massimo.
Opinions will vary on this matter and will be very confusing.
I would, even have done so last year, go for both, but the prices are a bit on the high side for second hand mechanise.. :thumbs_up:


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Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:31 am 
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Prices do seem a little high?
Have you ever used either?
Think I'd go for the 170-500mm for wildlife.
(Though I'd investigate using the shorter one with a teleconverter)

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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:36 am 
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I have not used any of these lenses before as i still only have the standard one that comes with the camera the 55-200 i think. :hmz: :hmz:

I got them as a package! Where would you guys recommend i look for a good second hand one? Not sure if i can mention it here but iv been looking at www.odp.co.za (abbreviated just in case) ?

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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:05 pm 
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Hi Massimo, I'd go for the 150-500 any time.
It gives you that extra reach for wildlife that you wouldn't have with a 100-300 mm.
I use Nikon and use an 80-400 mm and there are times I'd love to have an extra 100 mm on my lens.

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Massimo wrote:
Not sure if i can mention it here but iv been looking at http://www.odp.co.za (abbreviated just in case) ?

And that doesn't work, this does: http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/

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Hi Massimo, I'd go for the 150-500 any time.

Note that the lens in the first post is the 170-500, which is quite a different lens.

That lens is good, the two lenses in the first post are mediocre at best. I would suggest passing on them, it's going to set you back R5000 and you'll never be really happy with them.
Rather buy the 170-500, which you may find for the same price?

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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:17 pm 
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RUMURUTI wrote:
Hi Massimo, I'd go for the 150-500 any time.

Note that the lens in the first post is the 170-500, which is quite a different lens.

That lens is good, the two lenses in the first post are mediocre at best. I would suggest passing on them, it's going to set you back R5000 and you'll never be really happy with them.
Rather buy the 170-500, which you may find for the same price?


Didn't you just make the same mistake? :hmz: :whistle:


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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:29 pm 
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:hmz: :hmz: im getting confused between the two of you lol! the two lenses are as follows :


sigma 100-300f/4 for canon

Sigma 170-500mm f/5-6.3 APO for Canon EOS

I have read Rumuruti and i agree that the extra length is good so im actually not keen on the 100-300 any more!

SO my question is :

is the Sigma 170-500mm f/5-6.3 APO for Canon EOS any good!?! and if not what would you rather recommend??

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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:32 pm 
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I have the 170 - 500 and so has Sprocky (Have a look at his photo's).
It is not a world-class lens, but it is good value for money.
The 150 - 500 is definitely better, but also a lot more expensive.
I guess it all depends on what your skill is and what you want to spend on it.
Just go to a shop.
Test a few lenses and make your choice. :lol:

Told you that you were going to get confused. :twisted:


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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:34 pm 
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Massimo, take a look at my thread titled "My in and out favourite shot of the day", in Travel Tales. 90% of the pics are taken with my 170-500, see what you think. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 1:04 pm 
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Massimo

Not an expert on these things, I do photography purely as a hobby. R5000 is very high for a 170-500mm lens- I have one, and I paid R2500 for it second hand and that was a few years ago.

But certainly, if you are going to get one of these two options, go for the 170-500mm. The previous owner of mine was a wildlife photographer in Botswana, and he mentioned that he used it mostly for the bat-eared foxes. He was very happy with it, as am I.

Otherwise sout around a bit-you may get a better bargain with some patience and persistence.

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Didn't you just make the same mistake? :hmz: :whistle:

Aaaarggghhh! :wall:

Yep! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Help with lenses please
Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 2:12 pm 
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Just did some research about the product not many people have stock of it e.g. catz digital and camerastuff etc... I was told that the lens is not a good one and sigma has taken it out of the market?? I was also told that i have to have a tripod or bean bag as this lens has no IS? is it true ? I have a possible source to get it for around R3000 new! but still working on it! Where can i actually test one ? I stay in Edenvale JHB! If anyone lives close and has one please let me know and maybe you will let me come see it :whistle: :whistle: and take a few pictures with it!

Ta for all your advice!! it is really appreciated! he he throw a spanner in the works and ask which you would go for it is was the 150-500 and the 170-500.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 3:28 pm 
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Hi Massimo

Spanners in the works :naughty: :naughty: Go for the 150-500.

have you tried Kameraz in Rosebank-always worth a try for second hand stuff.

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Unread postPosted: Mon Jul 19, 2010 6:11 pm 
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I would definitely say the 150-500 as it has stabilization where as the 170-500 does not, as a canon user myself i don't know what I'd do without my IS on my 100-400, i have tested the 150-500 on my camera and was very impressed, good focusing and feels great in the hands, a bit on the heavy side at 1.9 Kg but pros out way the cons!

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