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 Post subject: Baby Zebra Drowns
Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:42 pm 
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Shame, did anyone see the poor little Zebra fall into the waterhole at Orpen, he is still floating there....


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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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No way! :big_eyes:

Nature can be a cruel mother sometimes. :cry: Tough love.

Some predator / scavenger is going to be chuffed about this. I guess, that is what happens to balance things out.

I often wonder if animals are capable of grief. I know ellies are and thety have a complex social structure. But what about antelope. I think scientists will say they aren't capable of grief, but I don't believe that somehow.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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Shame, did anyone see the poor little Zebra fall into the waterhole at Orpen, he is still floating there....


There is something in the water which looks like it is a small zebra. Did you actually see it all happening or are you guessing as to what may have happened?

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Looking at this webcam shot, it really looks like a striped animal... :(

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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I saw the Webcam shot with the mother and baby at the edge of the water with the mother drinking. The next shot showed the mother thrashing around in the water so presume that was when the foal fell in and could not get up.
This is all supposition but seems the most probable scenario. :cry:


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Will someone intervene and remove the carcass from the water hole? Or has this been done already? Shame about the baby zebbie, but would be even worse if the entire place got contaminated :shock:

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Hi all

I wonder if it was this baby? :(
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Did anyone save the cam shots?

Lockie - The Zeb is still in the water!!

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Lockie, if there is a carcass in the waterhole I am sure the hyena's will soon be there to remove and eat it.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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Looking at the timeframe is could quite possibly be the same little foal as it is roughly the same size. Unfortunately I was not logged in - just surfing so did not save the cam shots.


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Lockie, if there is a carcass in the waterhole I am sure the hyena's will soon be there to remove and eat it.


Dinner for tonight is served. On the menu we have marinated cold zebra cuts, no salads.

Wonder if someone will keep us updated as to which animal ventures into the water to retrieve tonights take out food.

EDIT: add "marinated".

Appologies for the dark humour peeps, but this is nature and I just can't help seeing the lighter side of it.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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Wow I can't believe that. I wonder is the waterhole that deep that it won't be able to stand??

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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Wow I can't believe that. I wonder is the waterhole that deep that it won't be able to stand??


The water is not that deep, but probably very slippery on the bottom. The foal must have fallen over and it's hoofs were then unable to get a grip on the slippery bottom to stand up.

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I agree BH, I believe that the whole animal species is capable of far more emotion than we give them credit for. It is so sad that the baby zebbie had to end its life in this way.

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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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OMG!!! THIS IS AWFUL!!! :cry:

I'm totally all for mother nature taking her course, but this is a man-made waterhole!!! Sheesh, this made me cry, this is awful in one of our webcam waterholes :cry:

Bunnyhugger - I do believe animals feel a sort-of grief, but it is more an instinct - as in the grief a mother feels for an offspring (as in - in the end the animal's instincts program it to reproduce and look after it's young so as to continue the species... etc). Look at a leopard who leaves it's cubs, only to return to find them missing. They don't look around for 2 minutes and give up - they search for ages, it's heartbreaking, but instinct.

I'm no expert, this is just what I believe (and I probably don't want to hear if it's not true cos it makes me feel better thinking this :tongue: )

And despite my stupid tears, I actually appreciated your "dark humour" (as you called it) - but this is still going to give me nightmares :(

Can anyone tell me - does this happen normally in rivers etc? I can't get over that this happened in a man-made waterhole... doesn't this mean that this isn't necessary mother nature's work, but the work of man-made structure? :huh:

And has this ever happened before? This is the first time I've ever seen (or seen the evidence) of an African animal drown - I feel a bit lost over this :cry:


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 Post subject: Re: Baby Zebra Drowns
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I hear you Mel and yes, it is very sad but it does not happen very often. A while ago an Impala slipped and fell into the waterhole and broke it's leg. The ranger had to shoot it but only after he draped his cap over the cam lens. :wink: I think these sort of things happen more often in the rivers than we are aware of but this is nature and the death of one animal might mean the survival of another one's litter.

I'm with you though, it's very hard to see a baby floating in the water. :cry:

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