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 Post subject: Re: Shrike: Red-backed
Unread postPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:14 pm 
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Saw this one near Oliphant's in February. Such a pretty bird.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Please help me with this birdie.

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Seen in KNP in March.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Female Red-backed Shrike (based purely on previous IDs on this thread) I think

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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:D Thanks a lot, joshilewis.

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 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:08 pm 
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This one seen at midday near Olifants camp near the river on the Balule road. I think it is either a juvenile Fiscal Flycatcher or a Marico Flycatcher. It posed most accommodatingly on the top of the bush and was not in the least afraid of the car. I did not see it eat anything. I see the delineation of the plumage is quite abrupt and the slight rufous wash on the chest. I have swirched the names of the files twice because I couldn't decide which of the two it was and then realised I could be wrong with both.

I must mention that I live in suburban Paarl so I long for the wide variety of lowveld birdlife here, thus going slowly through my recent KNP trip photos to identify the difficult one (difficult for me that is!) is like having the holiday all over again.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
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Hi Pete,
I'd say this bird is a Red-backed Shrike, female or juvenile

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hi. I hope somebody could help identifying the following bird.

Answers to the questions asked in identifying a bird.
1.) Where did you see this animal? (National Park, area of the country.)
Kruger National Park

2.) In what habitat was it? (Rocks, tree, mountainous, grasland, etc.)
The bird was sitting in a tree close to Crocodile Bridge

3.) What size was it approx.?
Very Small (15 - 20 cm)

4.) Was it alone?
Yes

5.) What was it doing?
Sitting. (Not doing much.)

6.) What time of year / season was it?
Summer (2011-03-06)

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I think this is a "Lesser Grey Shrike", but the following makes me doubt the ID:
[*] The tail feathers contains grey, black and white markings.
[*] The beak is not black as per my reference book, but more grey in color.
[*] The beak is also a bit longer as per my reference book, which shows a "Lesser Grey Shrike" with a more shorter/stronger beak.

Hope anybody could assist. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hello Leeukos,
Lesser Grey Shrike seems ok for me.
Nice picture !
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Leeukos,

With some highlights on your pic, it seems to me like a Red-backed Shrike. You can see rufous coming through on the shoulder, this will also explain the bone colour of the beak. Lesser Grey has a broader black mask and you would have seen a white spot on the lower part of the folded wing, the juv. won't have black on the forehead..and the black bill...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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What a lot I learn following this thread. I do go and do all the double checks, you know :wink:
Thank you :clap: :clap: :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Lizet Grobbelaar wrote:
Leeukos,

With some highlights on your pic, it seems to me like a Red-backed Shrike. You can see rufous coming through on the shoulder, this will also explain the bone colour of the beak. Lesser Grey has a broader black mask and you would have seen a white spot on the lower part of the folded wing, the juv. won't have black on the forehead..and the black bill...



Hi Lizet. Thanks for the feedback. I had a look at the Red-Back Shrike, and it is a possible ID. However, according to Bird book I use, it has to be a male bird, as the female does not have such a grey-ish color on the head. The only concern I have with the ID is that the male has a hint of brown on the chest, where the bird in the photograph has a clear white chest.

I do believe that a Red-backed Shrike may be a better ID, but it should be male. (The white chest still bothers me.)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Lizet, I'm not convinced that that shrike has rufous on the wing. I think it might be a quirk of the angle and light. When I first saw the photo I thought Lesser-grey. The jizz for me doesn't fit Red-backed (but you are a lot more experienced and knowledgable than me). Unfortunately I don't have a field guide with me at work.

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 Post subject: Re: Shrike: Red-backed
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It took some time to ID this bird. I got a lot of feedback from my fellow forum members in the ID parade, and have made a final ID as a "Red-backed Shrike". :dance:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hi friends,
Finally, I managed to get back to the photos from my trip to Kruger...

Here is an identification I'd like to check with you.

The bird was seen at Jan 8th at H7 (Satara-Orpen Road), in the morning.

I identified it as a Red-Backed Shrike. What do you think?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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It certainly looks like a Red-backed Shrike.

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Niall.


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