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Unread postPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:00 am 
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Diesel you were definitely lucky to see the mamba from the safety of your car and not on foot!
They are beautiful creatures :D
I have also heard that they will not travel around you if you cross their path.
Dr Ian Player mentions in one of his books an encounter he had when walking a wilderness trail where he crossed a black mambas path and it reared up to face him, he remained completely motionless and after a few seconds it lowered itself to the ground and continued on its journey.
Must have been terrifying.
They apparently move at a considerable speed as well


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I enjoyed a relatively close encounter with a mamba recently in Mapungubwe NP, together with Natal spurfowl and Meves's starling. These birds were quite fearless. Check out the thread here.


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Please peeps, I am completely sober. I have read somewhere on the forum (cant find it now) that apparently you will smell curry when a mamba is in a room.. is this true?? :shock:

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Bennievis, when we did the Sweni trail we had a briefing the first night (they always do the first night).
Our guide warned us to always check for snakes under our beds when entering our huts.
He said that a black mamba smells like curry and if you do smell curry in your hut, you better get out fast.
I am sure that he knows what he is talking about, as he has been a guide in the Kruger for many years...


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I studied Black mambas in KZN for two years, and wrote up a paper.
They stick around the same refuge permanently if left undisturbed.
I watched them from a hide, just like you would a bird.
Observing them like this showed a new perspective, calm and peaceful.
Many people get bitten when attempting to kill a BM with a stick or a panga - the only safe way if you have to is with a firearm.

I now live in the Little Karoo and study the dwarf adders and also the Cape cobra, the latter is showing very similar habits to the BM.

BTW do you know that all the BM bites in Swaziland are fatal?
They do not have antiserum and have limited respirator facilities.

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Diesel, wow its very interesting!!! Genaaaade (goodness me).Thanks for sharing.
Armata, very interesting research! Please post some of your experiences on the forum. I am intrigued by BM's as I think they are the most scary things on the planet. :big_eyes:

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 Post subject: Re: Snakes: Black mamba
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Just finished reading this thread and I need to add my opinion here.
So please don't take anything I say resonantly.
It's only my opinion and I'm more than willing to listen to other people's opinions over a beer or 2! :)

Ok. I must start by saying that I am a snake lover and only for reasons beyond my control am I currently not able to keep them as pets! (no BM's that is just constrictors and a few mild venomous species! :whistle: ) I love them but also respect them!
This is a risk that I am willing to take.
I understand that in a situation where people are at risk the BM must be eliminated, however sad this is. However I have run into puff adders, Boomslang and a few other nameless species and even when startled they always moved of rather then attack me!
I can't understand the fear associated with snakes?
If one is in a area where these species are found one should know the risks!
Ignorance kills !
Information can save your life!
Know what to do when you get bitten!
It's the same with anything in life!
There are always risks involved! Steve Erwin is a case in point ! (Yes I was a fan! :( ) I guess I'm speaking to the wrong people here right!
All the snake killers out there are not on this forum! :roll:

I have seen one BM in the wild.
In the Pongola area on a private game reserve.
It reared up to the height of the 4x4 we were traveling in.
Eye contact of note.
I also think that BM's have personality's .
Some are more placid than others.
They are beautiful if one takes the time to look closely.
I wouldn't mind running into one in the Kruger myself!
So everyone on this thread who has seen one is very lucky and has my complete :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Snakes: Black mamba
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I completely agree with this :)
I've been catching snakes since I was in nappies as a hobby, as well as for photographic purposes as of late....I don't find any reason to be a afraid of them, as I've never been chased, brutally attacked, snuck up on by any legless creature :D ......
When I was young once, I had no idea of what I was catching, and picked up a Southern Stiletto snake....which, being impossible to handle safely (Which I learnt afterwards), bit me, and put me in hospital....
This, strangely gave me a new respect for these little guys...
As they only really attack, if threatened...
And don't sit waiting to ambush people....as some may think :)
The only chance you have of being harmed, is if you come close enough to be harmed...
Most snakes are harmless anyway and vanish in the presence of humans........
People use the excuse that Mambas and Mozambique spitting cobras are territorial and have to be killed on the spot :)
Just moving them a far enough distance will solve the problem....
They will set up new territories elsewhere.....
Killing snakes just seems the easy way out!! :evil:


I've come across Black Mamba many times out on foot, mostly seeing them vanishing in the grass ahead of me.....
On a few occasions I was unlucky enough to have them cornered amongst rocks etc, where they have reared up in defense.....
Never striking out once...I backed off, and so did they (Not aggressive unless actually provoked), you'll see there's definitely more going on inside that snakes head then we think, when you look one straight in the eyes........
And I agree, that snakes do have personalities!

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 Post subject: Re: Snakes: Black mamba
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Remember it is illegal to catch a snake without a permit.
Even I you have done a course and even if it is a problem animal.
And if you have a permit you are not allowed to keep it for more than 24 hours.
If you want more info on the subject and handling PM me


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 Post subject: Re: Snakes: Black mamba
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I do not think that you guys are the only ones by far!!

RJ: :naughty: Please remember that it is FGASA policy that a guide should not pick up snakes! (I'm not talking about removing snakes from threatening situations.) A guide should never disturb any animal if it is at all possible.

No guide should go around picking up say (just as an example) a baby antelope they may find. It is just not done. It is un-ethical!

For some strange reason some guides have the ego-thing about picking up snakes! Always with the excuse that it is for educational purposes. :slap:

A good and ethical guide will use the opportunity of educating his guests, without disturbing the snake. There is no excuse for picking up that snake!

It is just as wrong to remove a snake from his natural environment because you want to keep snakes, or because you want to photograph them.

If you want to be a good guide, you have to respect nature. Respecting its inhabitants is just as important.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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This was seen at Malelane gate on 26 Sept 09. Can any one ID it for me
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Hi, PJW havent you got a clearer pic of his head? Would make it easier to ID.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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I've just been through my photos and can't find a better view of the head so I've zoomed in on the head Don't know if it will help
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Agree with QBreed, Black Mamba.

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Thank you :D

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