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 Post subject: Snake: Water -
Unread postPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:04 pm 
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Hi there

Could someone please tell me what snake this is. We found it in our house in Pretoria on Monday. It is approx 35cm long and very thin - if you use the tile grouting on the photo as reference.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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To me it looks like a Aurora House snake but I am not very sure as it is difficult to make out detail! :hmz: They are quite harmless. Will see what others suggest?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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I havechanged the lighting to have a better look at the detail. It still seems to be a Aurora!
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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Thanks Bobbi
I'm so relieved - for 2 reasons - 1. In case I find its brothers and sisters around and 2. If it comes back again - we set it free in the field next to the house.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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As I said not very sure. In fact not sure at all! It could be a Herald snake - that has the same kind of "soft body" look. Also not dangerous. Of course it is a juvenile and like birds, they can look quite different from the adults that have definitive markings!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Looks like a brown house snake to me too. Have had one or two in the house over the years. Mother-in-law stepped on one in the kitchen one night :big_eyes: Caused quite a commotion, the snake feinted :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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I am 99% sure that is NOT a Brown House snake! Brown House snake has very definite head shape and white stripe markings! The real ID remains in doubt! :doh:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Albert12 wrote:
Hi there

Could someone please tell me what snake this is. We found it in our house in Pretoria on Monday. It is approx 35cm long and very thin - if you use the tile grouting on the photo as reference.

Thanks

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That is NOT an Aurora house snake

This is what an Aroura house snake looks like

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What you have there is A Brown Water SnakeLycodonomorphus rufulus
Quite cool finding them in Pretoria though although they are really common through out the coastal regions there range is very limited inland nice find.

These snakes are completely harmless and very rarely bite when harassed they will musk, they feed on a wide range of things from tad poles , small frogs and fish bigger snakes will take pinkie mice as well as nestling birds.
They normally get to around 60cm so they are a fairly small snake.

No more doubt over the ID.
brown house snakes have white markings on this unlike this uniform brown of the. Brown Water snake.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Oh, just one more Q. Are they harmless to dogs too? Just worried about mine - they're not used to snakes and may want to play with them rather than leave them alone.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Okay - this is another photo - same snake.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
Unread postPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:32 am 
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:wall: I agree, NOT an Aurora but Common Brown Water Snake.
Auroras however do come in a dark phase/variety but the stripe on the back is prominent on adults as well as juveniles - I was always under the impression that very young Auroras mostly lacked the backstripe - OK I was wrong!
Albert, your "specimen" of an Aurora is beautiful - not all of them are that light & colourful.
Totally harmless for people (and dogs)!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Albert,

The snake NEVER bite i have caught 100's not once have i been bitten.
They have no fangs or venom so a bite to your dog would be nothing more then
a pinch at the very most, an ant bite is worse.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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Please do not harm them whatever you do. I suggest you pick them up gently and place them near the river or marsh. They mainly eat frogs. This might be a coincidence that you found more than one but consider yourself lucky! There are few people that ever see one in their lifetime! I repeat they are totally harmless to man though they might fake strike when you pick them up. That is just to scare the "enemy"!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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hi there

found this snake at the vaal river, I thought it was a brown water but has a red/ orange eye and white belly with black markings on its belly.

can anyone id it for me

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 Post subject: Re: Identification help: Snakes
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WOW.

please dont take offence but that is very foolish to touch let alone capture a snake of which you can not ID it positively the way you are holding the snake can get you easily easily bitten if that was a venomous snake you would be in a ton of trouble!


That snake LUCKILY is Dusky bellied Water Snake Lycodonomorphus laevissimus non venomous but do bite readily that is a large specimen you have there they max out at about 1.2m average around 80-100cm have a strong bite and will musk readily when harassed.

Please be more careful out there!


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