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Re: Poaching

Unread postby Richprins » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:29 pm

DinkyBird wrote:
Scipio wrote:
salamanda wrote:CEO of SANParks;


Salamanda, this is the same guy that is on the Board of Directors of the company(Singular) that is building the Hotel at Malelane and erecting the mine in Mapungupwe. :whistle:

Dr Mabunda is the man you are talking about Scipio?


Just to clear up any possible confusion there...

Dr Mabunda is CEO of SANPARKS, not the Chairman of the BOARD.

Scipio is talking about that "someone else..."

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby Richprins » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:34 pm

Micetta wrote:The Forums are par excellence the place of dream thinking. Nobody is listening. This place is inside sound proof walls and nobody never comes visiting, apart from Megan the excellent Communications Manager at ADDO and somebody from the minor parks :D The Rest is Silence.


I'm sorry, Micetta!

For the umpteenth time, the forums are a mine of information, and anyone is welcome to share such information, provided it is reliable, and it will be taken into cognisance, be it by SANPARKS or other dedicated parties! :evil:

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby Bush Happy » Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:38 am

'And the needle returns to the start of the song, and we all sing along like before'

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby zakiya » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:58 am

francoisd wrote:
A good example is the question Jumbo asked on 8 July 2010 on a report that 38 rhino was sold. On 13 July 2010 I asked if there is any confirmation of 20+ rhino that would’ve been sold at the Kirkwood auction on which Jumbo indicated on 15 July that she was still waiting for a response to her question of 8 July. A moderator indicated that SANParks was made aware of her questions to which Jumbo replied that a "Yes or No" answer would be sufficient. 12 Days (19 days since the original post) later still no Yes or No


No to both

francoisd wrote:Surely SANParks know if they sold rhino or not


Yes we know

francoisd wrote:Oh well, better stop wasting space with posts that question the status quo as it will not be answered.


20 white rhino were sold at the Kirkwood auction.

zakiya

Re: Poaching

Unread postby zakiya » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:10 am

Hi guys

I would like to add a note in terms of sales of rhino.

We delayed in responding to the questions because we are still awaiting figures from our scientific services colleagues in terms of this year's calculated take off figures.

We have previously explained how decisions are taken on how many rhinos to sell or donate every year based on the percentages of growth within KNP.

I will post the comprehensive figures when received and would appreciate your patience as our SS colleagues are usually extremely busy and respond to me when they can.

These figures will then explain the why and how of the sales - i certainly know that those questions are coming.

Regards,

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby onewithnature » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:16 am

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby DotDan » Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:44 am

zakiya wrote:I will post the comprehensive figures when received and would appreciate your patience as our SS colleagues are usually extremely busy and respond to me when they can.


SS?
Hell... didn't know you had that kind of protection :twisted:

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby zakiya » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:04 am

Ah so you DID sneak in DD!

Yeah - our SS are pretty smart critters! They just a bit busy so I sit waiting :(

But these are the guys who have grown our animal populations to the extent that they're pretty safe from extinction - and they're really ticked off that the poachers are now ruining their hard work...

All the more reason to spread the range and ensure that there are enough of the species all over the country so that we can ensure that disease or poachers DON'T wipe out our populations...

It's really upsetting that human beings are so callous as to not care for the future of this earth and go about killing innocent animals for the same substance that their fingernails are made of.

Why don't they just chew their nails huh? :wall:

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby Micetta » Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:28 am

Ignorance is the root to lots of evil :evil:

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby missings.a.! » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:34 am

Imberbe wrote:Getting back to the counter poaching topic. Saw rangers bussy with a counter poaching operation in Northern KNP, this past Saturday afternoon while many South Africans were bussy watching sport or relaxing. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

They were out in full force, with the SANParks helicopter in support.

Lets support this effort rather than just bemoaning the situation.


Please everyone let us support Sanparks on this and not criticise their anti poaching work. They are up against major criminals that have the benefit of suprise and are able to spend large sums of money on guns and helicopters.

The Sanparks anti poaching team put themselves in very real danger against wicked criminals. Let them know they have our support. :thumbs_up:

Then let us have faith that Sanparks knows what they are doing when they sell rhino to other parks, as they have done so well in conserving the rhino from extinction.

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby zakiya » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:47 am

Thanks missings.a.!

Yes our anti poaching units don't rest. Whether its rhinos in KNP or abalone in the Cape.

It is tough when the general public make statements like "SANParks needs to do something about poaching". We ARE doing alot... and so is the government. No one is sitting back and letting this happen.

Finally, all the conservation bodies are working together so that these poachers can be traced and caught. With everyone working together, we have more accurate figures. We can identify whether the poachers are the same ones who may have poached in another area thus we can trace their movements.

And with everyone working together, when we catch those killers, we can ensure that they hurt bad because we will have better evidence.

I will be releasing the latest statistics for the country a little later today. It is heartbreaking. But we are not giving up the fight. We never will.

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby TheunsH » Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:54 am

I agree with your post Missings.a.! :clap: :clap:

Thanks for your efforts Zakiya! :thumbs_up:

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby Micetta » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:17 pm

Thank you so much for keeping us informed Zakiya :thumbs_up:

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby CuriousCanadian » Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:23 pm

zakiya wrote: But we are not giving up the fight. We never will.


ZAX!!!! :thumbs_up:
Appreciate what you have before it becomes what you had.

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Re: Poaching

Unread postby Imberbe » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:16 pm

Media Release: Poachers relentless in bloody pursuit of rhino horn

South African National Parks (SANParks) confirmed today (Wednesday, 28 July) that the total figure for rhinos poached in the country since January this year, is 152. This figure encompasses the latest number of rhino poached in provincial parks and private reserves as well.

The Kruger National Park (KNP) alone has lost 1 black rhino and 65 white rhinos to poachers since January. The Provincial Parks suffered a loss of 3 black rhinos and 42 white rhinos while private game owners lost 1 black rhino and 40 white rhinos.

SANParks confirmed that they also add rhino calves that are found dead as a result of their mothers being poached, to the total figure. The reasoning is that when a rhino cow is poached, and she has a calf with her, the chances of survival of the calf are reduced to near zero and if not found by authorities in time, it could die of starvation or become prey to the various predators in the wild. This is considered poaching at a secondary level and contributes to the decline of the species.

The estimated population of white rhinos for the country as a whole at 2009 was 19 409, while the black rhino population figures were at 1 678. While it is evident that the breeding populations, especially of white rhinos are stable, the alarming escalation of poaching has authorities on high alert.

“Perhaps it is no longer appropriate to refer to this spate of illegal killing of rhinos as poaching given the levels of sophistication, violence, precision and the money behind it. We are dealing with unprecedented high levels of organised crime which the Police and all security agencies are helping to defeat,” said Dr David Mabunda, Chief Executive of SANParks. “We have worked hard as a country, to bring this species back from the brink of extinction and we will continue to defend it even if we become the last man standing,” added Dr Mabunda.

Dr Mabunda reiterated his plea to the public to alert the authorities of any suspicious activity noticed in relation to rhino killings. To date 47 suspects comprising of foot-soldiers and high level dealers have been arrested throughout the country.

“Conservation bodies and private owners of rhino reserves alone will not stop this war. We are all responsible for the preservation of our natural heritage and everyone’s help is needed so please stand up and be counted in putting an end to this scourge,” was his plea.


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