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 Post subject: Re: Poaching
Unread postPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:18 pm 
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Unfortunately BH, if this is what you have been brought up learning from the time you were a tiny tot, it becomes part of your belief system, much the way some of our traditional African customs seem to make no sense to us. I agree, to me it seems incomprehensible that intelligent people can believe that rhino horn has any magical properties, but we need rather to accept that that is there belief system, and find a way to change the belief system, or find a way that makes it very difficult if not impossible to obtain the horn. Things such as tough jail sentences, defence force action etc etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Poaching
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 Post subject: Re: Poaching
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 Post subject: Re: Poaching
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terryc wrote:
Unfortunately BH, if this is what you have been brought up learning from the time you were a tiny tot, it becomes part of your belief system, much the way some of our traditional African customs seem to make no sense to us. I agree, to me it seems incomprehensible that intelligent people can believe that rhino horn has any magical properties, but we need rather to accept that that is there belief system, and find a way to change the belief system, or find a way that makes it very difficult if not impossible to obtain the horn. Things such as tough jail sentences, defence force action etc etc.


Neutron bombs. (I mean not in KNP or any of the game reserves.)

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 Post subject: Re: Poaching
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Neutron bombs. (I mean not in KNP or any of the game reserves.)


Understand the sentiment

Off topic, but have you ever looked at the ads for herbalists in the citizen.... if you grow up with beliefs, they become entrenched.

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 Post subject: Re: Poaching
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DinkyBird wrote:
Latest media release from SANParks - Rhino poaching - a global phenomenon, not only synonymous to KNP

Time for us all to join in the war against Rhino poaching and be as vigilant as we possibly can as requested by Dr Mabunda.


I think this is the source of the Media release and other recent reports:
http://cmsdata.iucn.org/downloads/cop15 ... ersion.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting comments there as well on rhino hunting in SA


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 Post subject: Re: Poaching
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Toko :thumbs_up:

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“We are dealing here with organized crime and hardened criminals linked to notorious syndicates that the SAPS and Interpol are also looking for. We know that our combined efforts will reap fruitful results in the near future and SANParks stays committed to making every effort to wipe-out this assault that is threatening our natural heritage.”
Very optimistic Dr. Mabunda, let's hope he is right :|

The numbers in the second link tells a lot :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Poachers caught/arrested/sentenced
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http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=nw20100614193018388C171377


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 Post subject: Re: Poacher shot between Punda and Shingwedzi
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Hope the poacher gets de-horned while he is recuperating in hospital :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Poacher shot between Punda and Shingwedzi
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Glad they got one of the *#($*@&'s. :clap: Shame about the rhino.

This might be a generalization, but the more I read SA newspapers, the more that "running away/hiding" is an effective means of escape across the country for criminals. If true, that is too bad. :wall:

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 Post subject: Re: Poacher shot between Punda and Shingwedzi
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That press report raises a few questions..

Can someone please explain to me how rangers can track animals but not humans?

Hmmm :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Poacher shot between Punda and Shingwedzi
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:clap: :clap: To the rangers out there day in day out catching these people. :clap: :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Poacher shot between Punda and Shingwedzi
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I was not even aware that these were many Rhinos in that area. I suppose the remoteness makes it easier fot the poachers :evil:

Well done to the rangers :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

I hope that justice is swift and that there is quick follow up on his poaching pals.

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 Post subject: Re: Poacher shot between Punda and Shingwedzi
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I heard this on radio back-veranda this morning

To the ranger that shot the poacher, well done, just aim better next time.


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 Post subject: Re: Poacher shot between Punda and Shingwedzi
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The first time I responded to a thread / topic of this nature I went completely overboard and voiced my joy at the outcome of a similar incident.

Unfortunately I was censured by the mods for my reaction so suffice to say, I am inordinately pleased that no-one can see my current reaction. :whistle:

The issue with the justice system is that even if this poacher is found guilty and sentenced, he will be getting three square a day at the tax payers expense, and it won't be long before he's out there doing it again. :slap:

For poaching (and in fact any illegal activities) to be stopped, the sentence needs to be harsh. None of this 3 years, out on parole in 1 for "good behaviour". It has to be a stiff sentence. Like throwing the keys away.

These parasites are taking away not only our heritage, but they are a total drain on the economy whilst being fed and sheltered in jail. :huh:

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