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Re: Life on Earth Threatened

Unread postby Micetta » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:09 pm

@Theuns
but how are they or we going to stop a nation like China?
At the moment the chinese must see the light, which is not very likely.

First step: The chinese yuan must be revaluated.
Second: Finding chinas week spots.
Third: Do a bit of black mailing :wink:
We cannot use the same methods as with Iran. Because we need China more than they need us.... and they own a third of the US public debt :roll:

A loooong way to go yet.

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Re: Life on Earth Threatened

Unread postby BushFairy » Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:42 pm

What a wonderful system Micetta! - and what a lovely country you live in! Theuns you are spot on with the larger countries being the problem - but also that things in these countries are thankfully starting to get better. Another wonderful thing which will be implemented soon is carbon trading - this will encourage people to reforest and encourage companies to use less energy and have fewer emissions - I believe that this will be a huge turning point for the attitudes of people across the world! Another positive is that scientists are coming up with new energy sources such as all the wind turbines in Europe - France is setting up two sets of wind turbines outside Grahamstown which will make the town independent of coal sourced energy! I hope that small countries like Switzerland, Denmark, South Africa, etc. will inspire the rest of the world... But as I said I want to make a difference in my time on earth, and know many people that feel the same (like the you all), and so I have hope for the future of our planet, but I am an eternal optimist ;)
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Re: Life on Earth Threatened

Unread postby naturelover » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:35 pm

We often hear mining companies talking about how they plan to restore areas once covered by pristine forest, fynbos, etc once they have finished their activities. Do not believe it. It is impossible to truly restore an area once it has been subjected to such destructive activities as mining. Here is why: the biodiversity of some places can be so high that within an area not even as large as a tennis court one may find genetic strains of certain species which are totally unique to that small area. These strains cannot be replicated merely be re-introduced organisms of the same species because while the re-introduced individuals may be members of the same species that once occurred there they are from a different gene pool. The differences between them may be so insignificant that they are only identifiable through a microscope.
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Re: Life on Earth Threatened

Unread postby moobox » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:54 pm

Listen, gene pools need refreshing. In zoological terms anyway. So, I dont think that the introduction of a different gene is going to do the damage. The problem is humans. There are too many. And even when there were fewer(?) the demands were too many. And now, while we talk about wanting to save the planet and the life and so forth, we all make our own dear little contribution to the earth's demise. And we cant help it. And we cant do otherwise. Because every time that you buy a plastic product, you make the contribution. And every time that you flick the light switch on, you make the contribution. And every time you participate in the activity to augment the species, you make the contribution. What's the sweat?

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Re: Life on Earth Threatened

Unread postby naturelover » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:52 am

This is exactly the kind of response I would expect from the mining companies. To condone local extinctions merely because what even though something becomes locally extinct shows a complete lack of understanding of the true purpose of conservation: to preserve areas in their original state.

What one sees on the Red List, etc. is merely the tip of the iceberg. Remember that a species can only be consider secure if the habitat it occurs in is secure. Even those that are still abundant if cannot be consider secure if all the sites where it occurs are threatened.
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Re: Life on Earth Threatened

Unread postby onewithnature » Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:56 am

The other day I was researching the island of Borneo in order to complete a short story I am writing, and was horrified at how thousands of square kilometres of once-impenetrable jungle have been cleared for the farming and logging industries. Relatively recently, huge areas were burned by man-made forest fires in order to open up land for rice paddies. Some of the remotest areas on Earth are to be found in central Borneo, yet nothing is secure with the technology and capitalistic drives of mankind these days. Unless there is a serious shift in Man's outlook on what is important on this planet, I have little doubt that those once-fantastic sci-fi stories of a barren, wasted world will become a reality. And what a tragedy that will be, for we have it all and, if we could just keep it all, hundreds of generations to come would be able to enjoy what we do. However, money and the greed that goes along with it, as well as the increasing necessity for Earth's natural resources for a human world population out of control, means that Earth will only be able to hold out for a few more hundred years at most against Man's inexorable depletion of this magnificent planet's wealth.
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