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Unread postby Liesl Da Silva » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:00 pm

Discovered a discussion on big five list for snakes/reptiles - author Mfezi....and it got me thinking :hmz: about a similar list for spiders - we have a lot of spiders in our country and it might be a cool idea?

Any ideas?? and or :cam: welcome
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Unread postby Candy's Style » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:03 pm

Don't know much about Spiders but I'll definately add the Golden Orb-Web Spider to the list :D
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Unread postby restio » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:16 pm

I'd add the Baboon spiders.

And perhaps the black widow - or button spider as we always call them.

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Unread postby wildtuinman » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:00 pm

tough one, i am no spider expert. :lol:

But I would go for SA's most dangerous 5 as:

Black & Brown Button Spider
Violin Spider
Sac Spider
Six-Eyed Sand Spider
Baboon Spider (it will make you have a heart attack :lol: )

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Unread postby wildtuinman » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:05 pm

Big 5: (dunno for sure if you would get all these in Kruger):

Button Spider
Daddy long legs
Baboon Spider
Golden Orb Spider
Trapdoor Spider

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Unread postby Liesl Da Silva » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:47 pm

I'm no expert either i just have a love/hate thing with spider's -I find them marvellously fascinating and terrifying at the same time.

Wildtuinman I like both the list you've suggested :clap: which brings me to this question: what would the criteria be for a big 5 list?
Would it be most venomous, biggest, rarest, etc. etc. etc? :huh:
Just curious, why Daddy long legs??

Candy - why the golden orb web?
Restio - why the baboon? and what do you both think of Wildtuinman's lists?
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Unread postby wildtuinman » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:00 pm

Well the big 5 animals are all ones which was rated as the most dangerous to hunt.

The small 5 were all automatic contenders as they were all named after the big 5.

The slithering 5 of Kruger was a combination of the most venomous of each species as well as the biggest and most reliable to find.

As for this category i honestly have no idea. Apart from the baboon spider in my initial top 5 it contained the most venomous ones.

My second list included a mixture of the ones easiest to identify I would think.

Very tough one this... :roll:

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Unread postby Liesl Da Silva » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:10 pm

Yeah! tough but interesting though 8)

I had 2 close encounters with the Black button spider. Unfortunately not in the KNP but at home a few years a go. :(
I was visiting my next door neighbour till late one evening, the point being that I went across there in the afternoon, not expecting to come back home after dark. :oops: Thus not a hint of light at my place (long before load-shedding). :D
I unlocked the security gate and wooden door, switched lights on and reached back for the security door to lock it, but pulled back my hand quite quickly as there was a very nice specimen of black button spider hanging on a single thread of web right where is was to put my hand!!! :big_eyes:

Then a few week later on this very same security door I saw the same lady with a tiny little male making his advances, oh so very carefully. :? It was neat to see this in real life not just on the telly! :clap:
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Unread postby Candy's Style » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:44 pm

Liesl Da Silva wrote:...
Candy - why the golden orb web?
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:lol: You had to ask...

I think I mentioned it because it is one of the 'well known' and most photographed spider... Not to mention its web :roll:

I would agree with:
The Black Button Spider (As a result of its venom),
The Baboon Spider (Who could mistaken it for anything else! Pure size gives it a mention)
The Trapdoor Spider (It has an unique way of catching prey and I reckon if you look hard enough you can find it any where),
The Sac Spider (due to venom and those fangs :shock: )
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Unread postby Liesl Da Silva » Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:04 pm

Yeah sorry! :D Not!

Golden orb is quite an attention grabber or bragger :lol:

Thanks for the response!
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Unread postby Mfezi » Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:26 pm

Liesl, I like Candy's Style's list. I am no expert either on spiders, but would definitely include the Sac spider and the Button spiders (anyone of the two) in my list. The Trap door spider is a very interesting spider. The baboon spider just have to be part of the list simply for their impressive size!! And then the Golden Orb for the size and strength of its web.

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Unread postby Liesl Da Silva » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:01 pm

Candy's Style's List:
The Black Button Spider (As a result of its venom),
The Baboon Spider (Who could mistaken it for anything else! Pure size gives it a mention)
The Trapdoor Spider (It has an unique way of catching prey and I reckon if you look hard enough you can find it any where),
The Sac Spider (due to venom and those fangs)


Mfezi said:
Liesl, I like Candy's Style's list.


Me too, :) but then I must ask if the net-casting spider (Deinopis Cylindrica) is a possibility? :? Although I have no idea whether it is found in KNP?? or if it is poisonous or not? All I know is it has nifty way of catching prey!!
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Unread postby Candy's Style » Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:40 pm

The net-casting spider is harmless to humans. Three types of net-casting spiders occur in South Africa:
The Ogre-faced spider (tropical and subtropical areas)
The Humped-back spider (bushveld areas)
The Camel-backed spider (Western Cape endemic).
Although I also don't know if they occur in Kruger but should in other SANParks?
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Unread postby Liesl Da Silva » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:10 pm

Thanks for that Candy! :clap:
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Unread postby ScorpionKing » Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:39 pm

Spides are cool because they live such fascinating lives. Just when you think arthropods are dull, archaic and lower lief forms, a jumping spider hops onto your finger, checks you out and gives you the once over. Amazing stuff!

If size is what your after. Then the following are probably southern Africa largest spider. In order of size (ladies :D )...

1. Golden brown baboon spider. (Ceratogyrus bechuanicus)
2. Rain Spider (Palystes sp.)
3. White Lady Spider (Leucochestris sp. :shock: )
4. Fishing Spider (Thalassius sp.)
5. Black legged Nephila (I think thats the common name...) (Nephila madagascariensis) (Monster spider, monster web :shock: )

All gaurenteed to keep you awake at night if they crawled over your face. :shock:
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